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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 27 January 2026
Edward Mountain
Thank you.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 27 January 2026
Edward Mountain
I recognise that the issue is only a single term. I was trying to understand it.
Norman, every day in the Parliament is a learning day for me, because I have never heard of a correction slip. Help me—is that a term that we use in the Scottish Parliament? People might not know it; I certainly do not.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 27 January 2026
Edward Mountain
Every day is a learning day for you as well, Norman. The clerks tell me that it is not a normal procedure but that it can be done. Once the solution is identified, I would be interested to see the best way to take the matter forward.
From what you said, cabinet secretary, I am getting that you are confident that the instrument can progress, and that you know full well that there are errors, but they could be corrected in the short term. Would that be done before the end of this parliamentary session?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 27 January 2026
Edward Mountain
Okay. I am looking to see whether any other committee member has a question.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 27 January 2026
Edward Mountain
Our decision on the instrument has to be made by 10 February, so we could do that next week. I have made the offer, cabinet secretary, and you have made your decision. That is fine.
Motion moved,
That the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee recommends that the Greenhouse Gas Emissions Trading Scheme (Amendment) Order 2026 [draft] be approved.—[Gillian Martin]
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 27 January 2026
Edward Mountain
Matthew, is it a good plan or a great plan? What is missing?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 27 January 2026
Edward Mountain
That a 20-year payback period might be acceptable for you—he says, tongue in cheek—but I fear that I will be long gone by then. I might be a pessimist, but I am going on the statistics for life expectancy.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 27 January 2026
Edward Mountain
Well, it will come as a surprise to you, Gemma.
This question is for all the witnesses. Let us go to page 51 of annex 3 of the climate change plan, which is the summary of the costs and benefits under the plan. In it, the Government says that there are
“no … costs to government from energy supply policies”.
It will all be driven by the market, but “significant investment” will be needed. It says that there will be no benefits and no cost to Scotland from what will happen on energy supply—it is the only section of the plan in which that is the case, I think.
Based on what Matthew Hannon said, one of my concerns is that, for people to buy into the plan, they need to understand what it will cost them. As householders, Claire, what will it cost us if we buy into the plan? There are no costs and no benefits to the Government. Some of the benefits that the Government has given in other sections include benefits to the national health service from reduced treatment and so on, but, apparently, there are not even any of those benefits in this section. What are the costs?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 27 January 2026
Edward Mountain
Gemma Grimes, you get a chance to speak now—not to agree with the point that Michael Matheson made that it might be good news that I will not be around in 20 years, but on the costs.
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 27 January 2026
Edward Mountain
Okay. I have no idea about the costs of solar—I am sure that we will find out about them shortly.
Sarah, do you want to ask a brief question before I move to Kevin Stewart?