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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 5 November 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 December 2023

Edward Mountain

We have not really talked about this point; I am simply looking for a yes or no answer. Part of the success of the bill will be in educating people about what is required of them and driving that forward. The Finance and Public Administration Committee made the point that providing the equivalent of £2.95 per household will be insufficient to meet the cost of educating people. I am not asking you to give me a decision now, but will you review that? I have learned a huge amount during this process, and other people could learn as much if we spent a bit more on education. I am making a plea for you to look at that.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 December 2023

Edward Mountain

On that note, we come to the end of the evidence session. I will briefly pause the meeting to allow officials to leave before we move on to the next agenda item. It is 11:58, so I ask committee members to be back and ready to start again at 11:03—I am sorry; I meant 12:03. We cannot go backwards in time.

11:58 Meeting suspended.  

12:03 On resuming—  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 5 December 2023

Edward Mountain

Murdo Fraser will get a chance to answer that question when he sums up at the end. Having failed to finesse things in quite the way that I had hoped to, I will go to Bob Doris and ask whether he has any questions that he wants Mr Fraser to clear up when he sums up.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 December 2023

Edward Mountain

I will let Ben Macpherson come in.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 December 2023

Edward Mountain

I am completely confused about how that will help me out. I do not understand how the Government will regulate a large company moving things around its supply chains as that suits it, unless a company is totally based in Scotland and cannot sell anything anywhere else.

It is brave to mention the deposit return scheme, because that related just to Scottish producers and not so much to producers around the world.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 December 2023

Edward Mountain

We visited Change Waste Recycling last week, and it was clear that everyone is doing it slightly differently. No one is following the original seven splits for waste, and we are all ending up with a complete mishmash, which is not valuable.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 December 2023

Edward Mountain

I still do not understand how you can force somebody to do what you specify.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 5 December 2023

Edward Mountain

Thank you. As I do not see anyone wanting to ask any more questions, that concludes our evidence-taking session on the instrument.

Item 4 is the formal debate on motion S6M-11534, in the name of Murdo Fraser, calling on the committee to recommend to the Scottish Parliament that the Fly-tipping (Fixed Penalty) (Scotland) Order 2023 (2023/335) be annulled.

Now, Murdo, I am going to ask you at the outset whether you are going to move or not move the motion. If you do not move it, you will not be able to speak to it. Would you like to move the motion?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 December 2023

Edward Mountain

I am looking rather blankly around the room. That is not a letter that I have seen.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 December 2023

Edward Mountain

I now understand which letter we were talking about earlier. It is not one that was received this morning. I misunderstood what was said.

There are lots of questions still to go, and we are running short of time. I have been generous, and I will continue to be as generous as I can if people are mindful that I am up against the clock.

I think that Mark Ruskell has a brief question, and then Ben Macpherson has one. I will then go back to Mark for further questions.