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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 8 July 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Edward Mountain

I seek some clarity. I would like to understand why you think that 60 days is an appropriate period. Do you have experience of lotting? Is it possible to do that within 60 days?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Edward Mountain

The result of the division is: For 1, Against 5, Abstentions 1.

Amendment 140 disagreed to.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Edward Mountain

Thank you for that, but I am keen for an answer of “moved” or “not moved”. I understand the reasons—they are already on the record and repeating them will only lengthen the time that we spend on dealing with the amendments.

Amendment 360 not moved.

Amendment 445 moved—[Tim Eagle].

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Edward Mountain

There will be a division.

For

Doris, Bob (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (SNP)
Lumsden, Douglas (North East Scotland) (Con)
Matheson, Michael (Falkirk West) (SNP)
Mountain, Edward (Highlands and Islands) (Con)
Stewart, Kevin (Aberdeen Central) (SNP)

Against

Lennon, Monica (Central Scotland) (Lab)
Ruskell, Mark (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green)

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Edward Mountain

Thank you very much, cabinet secretary. I call Douglas Lumsden to wind up and indicate whether he wishes to press or withdraw amendment 371.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Edward Mountain

I always think that when looking at legislation, what it is called is what it is attempting to do. We are talking about grouse moor licensing, and the amendment seeks to take things well beyond that. In fact, the application in amendment 374 talks about land that is

“within the ownership or occupation of the applicant, that is contiguous”

and

“where either management activities related to the killing or taking of the that bird could take place”.

Those could be miles apart. They could be in the north of Scotland—they could be in Caithness; they could be on land that is well away. The amendments that have been made to the 2024 act to include only areas where grouse are killed is the correct definition of grouse moor licences. I cannot support amendment 374 for that simple reason, but I am sure that the cabinet secretary will have a view.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Edward Mountain

The result of the division is: For 2, Against 5, Abstentions 0.

Amendment 526 disagreed to.

Amendment 527 moved—[Douglas Lumsden].

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Edward Mountain

There will be a division.

For

Lumsden, Douglas (North East Scotland) (Con)
Mountain, Edward (Highlands and Islands) (Con)

Against

Doris, Bob (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (SNP)
Lennon, Monica (Central Scotland) (Lab)
Matheson, Michael (Falkirk West) (SNP)
Ruskell, Mark (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green)
Stewart, Kevin (Aberdeen Central) (SNP)

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Edward Mountain

The question is, that amendment 166 be agreed to. Are we agreed?

Members: No.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Edward Mountain

The question is, that amendment 167 be agreed to. Are we agreed?

Members: No.