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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 7 February 2026
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change People’s Panel

Meeting date: 16 April 2024

Edward Mountain

I want to push a little bit. How much of the evidence that you heard over your weekend engagements was new and how much could we have heard through means other than your coming here to speak about it? How can the Government get the message out to everyone?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change People’s Panel

Meeting date: 16 April 2024

Edward Mountain

Karen Shakespeare, you mentioned doing good news stories, not bad news stories. However, to reinforce the message and get it across, do we need to say, “If we don’t do this, this is what is going to happen.”? Do we need to give the negative side to develop the positive?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change People’s Panel

Meeting date: 16 April 2024

Edward Mountain

A P45 every 12 months—that is a horrible thought.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change People’s Panel

Meeting date: 16 April 2024

Edward Mountain

One of the committee members will ask about schools later in the questioning session, so I will politely park the school idea at this stage. Bob Doris has some questions.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change People’s Panel

Meeting date: 16 April 2024

Edward Mountain

One more.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change People’s Panel

Meeting date: 16 April 2024

Edward Mountain

Monica, do you want to answer that? It is slightly within our remit, but it really falls within the heat in buildings bill. You are right, Scott, that it is absolutely critical, and I hope that the relevant people are listening. As you rightly say, heat pumps, insulation and double glazing are all expensive, and all of those things need to be costed out. It is right that you are flagging that up and good that it is flagged up. The matter is slightly outwith the committee’s remit, but I will pass it back to Monica. She may have a better answer than that.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change People’s Panel

Meeting date: 16 April 2024

Edward Mountain

I am sorry, Monica. This is where I get myself into trouble with committee members. Time is marching on, and it always goes more quickly when it is an interesting subject. I will take one more person on that question before moving on to Douglas Lumsden, if that is all right with you, Monica. I will come back to you at the end.

Does anyone else want to add to what Karen Shakespeare has just said?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change People’s Panel

Meeting date: 16 April 2024

Edward Mountain

It certainly opened my eyes.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change People’s Panel

Meeting date: 16 April 2024

Edward Mountain

Thank you. We will go round the committee members. I will start. I am the convener of the committee and I represent the Highlands and Islands region.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change People’s Panel

Meeting date: 16 April 2024

Edward Mountain

Good morning to those who are just joining us, and welcome back to those who joined us earlier, before we went into private session.

We have apologies from Mark Ruskell, who is unable to join us today because, unfortunately, he is not well.

Our next item of business is an evidence session with six representatives of the people’s panel on climate change. Back in September 2023, the committee agreed to establish a people’s panel to help us with our consideration of how the Scottish Government could better engage with the public on climate change.

A total of 23 individuals were selected to sit on the panel. The panel convened over two residential weekends and held two online sessions in February and March 2024, when it gathered evidence from a variety of witnesses. On 11 April, the panel reported on its findings and recommendations.

At our meeting today, we will discuss the report with a selection of representatives from the panel. Thank you all for joining us. We are delighted to have you here. The last time I saw you, you were about to embark on your work, and I was shooting off so that I could watch the rugby matches. A lot has happened since then.

On behalf of the committee, I thank you all for your dedication and hard work, which we can see from the report that you have presented and we have read with great interest.

I will ask each witness, starting with Karen Shakespeare, to introduce themselves and to tell us where they are from. I will then ask the committee members to do the same.