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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 15 September 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 November 2023

Edward Mountain

Mark Ruskell has a couple of questions that he would like to pose.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 November 2023

Edward Mountain

Do you have further questions, Mark?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 November 2023

Edward Mountain

Perfect. I think that Bob Doris wants to come in.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 November 2023

Edward Mountain

I call Gail Macgregor.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 November 2023

Edward Mountain

Welcome back. I am sorry for the slight delay. We will now hear from a panel of representatives from local authorities on the Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill. I am pleased to welcome Brydon Gray, team leader for waste management, Shetland Islands Council, and David McCulloch, head of recycling, streetscene and waste management for Glasgow City Council. I would like to be able to welcome Paul Wolverson, the service manager from environmental and commercial services at Moray Council, but it appears that his microphone is playing up. Therefore, he cannot contribute but he will listen to the session and will contribute through written answers afterwards.

Thank you all for joining us today. I am sorry that we are down to two from a cast of three. Interestingly, if we had had Moray Council, we would have had the council with the highest rate of recycling. It is disappointing that we do not. We still have the one with the lowest rate at the bottom end of the list, however, so there are important questions to answer.

Let us start off with a very easy question. What are the key areas where the circular economy strategy and national targets could support local authorities in what they do? Let us go first to Brydon Gray, please. [Interruption.] Do not say you are muted as well. I cannot see your microphone coming on. There we go, you are not muted. You are live.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 November 2023

Edward Mountain

Brydon Gray’s microphone is live so he can add in now.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 21 November 2023

Edward Mountain

It is quite complicated, and I thank you for all the examples and the formulas that are used to work out who gets charged for what, but if a manufacturer reduces the CO2 emissions of a vehicle that it produces to below the previous standard, technically the order is saying that it will not be penalised for that. In fact, it could produce more until the limit that was set has been reached. Is that correct?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 21 November 2023

Edward Mountain

Item 2 is consideration of a draft statutory instrument, the Vehicle Emissions Trading Schemes Order 2023, which is a joint instrument between the Scottish, United Kingdom and Welsh Governments. It is subject to affirmative procedure and cannot come into force until it has been approved by the Scottish Parliament, Welsh Senedd and both Houses of the UK Parliament. On the scrutiny in the Scottish Parliament so far, the Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee had no observations on the instrument.

As with other affirmative instruments, we will have an evidence session prior to the formal debate and I am pleased to welcome the Cabinet Secretary for Transport, Net Zero and Just Transition, Màiri McAllan. She is joined by Natalie Milligan, a solicitor in the Scottish Government and Morna Cannon, interim director of the low carbon economy directorate, Transport Scotland. Thank you all for joining us.

Following this evidence session, the committee will be invited at the next agenda item to consider a motion for the committee to recommend that the instrument be approved. I remind everyone that the cabinet secretary’s officials can speak under this item but not in the debate that follows. I invite the cabinet secretary to make an opening statement. The paperwork contains a lot of three-letter and four-letter acronyms that are very confusing, so I hope that you will make them clear. Thank you, cabinet secretary.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 21 November 2023

Edward Mountain

Thank you, cabinet secretary. As I understand it, the UK Government is changing its target to 2035, but it is still signed up to the schemes and will be dealing with them in exactly the same way as Wales and Scotland are. Is that correct?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 21 November 2023

Edward Mountain

Any example to illustrate this would be helpful. We had lots in the paperwork that was produced and, just as I thought I had tied it down, it seemed to move. It would be helpful if you could give me an example.