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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 4 November 2025
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Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

A9 Dualling Project

Meeting date: 24 January 2024

Edward Mountain

Grahame Barn mentioned spawning, which relates to salmon. The A9 is next to the bottom part of the River Spey, and I have a wild salmon fishery on the river, so I have an interest in relation to salmon that is not particularly relevant, but I wanted to make that clear.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

A9 Dualling Project

Meeting date: 24 January 2024

Edward Mountain

When we listened to the cabinet secretary talk about the A9 project, it was made clear that several sections would happen at once—that the work would not be done just one section at a time—otherwise they would never meet the 2035 deadline. Is there a contractor that is big enough to do all that work, or do you see it involving multiple contractors? Would that approach put off the bigger ones, because they would not see a long-term project going into the future for them?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

A9 Dualling Project

Meeting date: 24 January 2024

Edward Mountain

Is one large managing contractor with all those other people working underneath it a joint venture by another name?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

A9 Dualling Project

Meeting date: 24 January 2024

Edward Mountain

Will subcontractors have confidence that their risk will be minimised under such an arrangement? One of my big fears is that they will not.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

A9 Dualling Project

Meeting date: 24 January 2024

Edward Mountain

Most people’s perception is that if there is a budget in a Government department, it will be spent. Looking back, did you have the budget for the A9 improvements? If so, what was the hold-up in spending it?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

A9 Dualling Project

Meeting date: 24 January 2024

Edward Mountain

Will you clarify that for me? You had the money to do the prep, but you did not have the money to do the work and actually build it—is that right?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

A9 Dualling Project

Meeting date: 24 January 2024

Edward Mountain

It would be brilliant. [Laughter.]

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

A9 Dualling Project

Meeting date: 24 January 2024

Edward Mountain

Yes, it is from the Edward committee. I have no land next to the A9.

Grahame, I want to go back to the comment that you made about statutory processes. There were issues with the Aberdeen western peripheral route. No prior work was done relating to some of the infrastructure adjacent to it and we had huge delays because gas pipelines and electricity lines were discovered.

I was a surveyor for 15 years, so I know that the compulsory purchase process is fairly straightforward. On the A9, the process is probably the easiest one in the world to do, because there are not many landowners along it until Dunkeld. Why is the statutory process holding up the project, despite there being few landowners and infrastructure assets running along the edge of the A9 that could be affected?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

A9 Dualling Project

Meeting date: 24 January 2024

Edward Mountain

Looking at those schemes, I can see that the Dalraddy to Kincraig section, which may have opened on budget, was certainly not on time. It was opened on the right day and then closed for another three months. In addition, the contractor on the AWPR said that it ended up losing money because there were extra costs. Do you think that that put contractors off looking at the A9 again until you came up with this new contract?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

A9 Dualling Project

Meeting date: 24 January 2024

Edward Mountain

Earlier, Roy made a comment about there being 300 landowners; that is over 80 miles of road on the A9. It is probably every compulsory purchase practitioner’s dream that there are so few, because that makes it relatively simple.

I will turn to the future, because I want to push on something that the convener mentioned, if I may. Alison Irvine, you suggested having a David Climie equivalent for the A9 work. The A9 project will cost £3.7 billion, according to Government figures. It could well increase—the cost is based on 2023 figures—by the time that it is finished in 2024. That is probably going to be closer to £4.5 billion. Are you going to have an overall supremo, making sure that all of that project works and that we get it done? I would say that, with its current staff, that is clearly outwith Transport Scotland’s ability.