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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 18 December 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change Committee’s Review of Scottish Emissions Targets and Progress Report 2023

Meeting date: 23 April 2024

Edward Mountain

We will see. If they do not, I am sure that I can bring you back in.

I said that I would go to Mark Ruskell next. Mark, it is your turn.

11:00  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change Committee’s Review of Scottish Emissions Targets and Progress Report 2023

Meeting date: 23 April 2024

Edward Mountain

I think that Ben Macpherson has a question, then I have a question.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change Committee’s Review of Scottish Emissions Targets and Progress Report 2023

Meeting date: 23 April 2024

Edward Mountain

It is just that we are quite short of time and I want to bring in Monica Lennon.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change Committee’s Review of Scottish Emissions Targets and Progress Report 2023

Meeting date: 23 April 2024

Edward Mountain

Item 2 is an evidence session with the Climate Change Committee to discuss its annual report for 2023, “Progress in reducing emissions in Scotland—2023 Report to Parliament”, on progress towards meeting Scotland’s emissions reduction targets. The session is also an opportunity to explore with our witnesses last week’s announcement by the Scottish Government on Scotland’s climate change targets, which was made in response to the report.

I am pleased to welcome from the Climate Change Committee Chris Stark, the chief executive, and Professor Keith Bell, Scotland’s champion. Thank you for joining us. I think that you are going to make some brief opening remarks. Chris, I guess that, as this is your last opportunity, you will go first.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change Committee’s Review of Scottish Emissions Targets and Progress Report 2023

Meeting date: 23 April 2024

Edward Mountain

Thank you very much. There were two final points there. We finally have the pleasure of your company, and I am delighted that you are back and being as pithy as you have been.

Keith, do you want to make an opening statement?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change Committee’s Review of Scottish Emissions Targets and Progress Report 2023

Meeting date: 23 April 2024

Edward Mountain

When the climate change plan was delayed, did that not ring all sorts of alarm bells for you?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change Committee’s Review of Scottish Emissions Targets and Progress Report 2023

Meeting date: 23 April 2024

Edward Mountain

The climate change plan should have been published in late 2023, so you should have had concerns last year, rather than just this year.

09:30  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change Committee’s Review of Scottish Emissions Targets and Progress Report 2023

Meeting date: 23 April 2024

Edward Mountain

Let us go back to this point, so that I fully understand it. We were told that the climate change plan would be delayed last year. Surely that was the moment—if it was not before—when the Scottish Government understood that it was not going to meet its targets.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change Committee’s Review of Scottish Emissions Targets and Progress Report 2023

Meeting date: 23 April 2024

Edward Mountain

So, it misled the Climate Change Committee and this committee on the fact that a climate change plan was coming, knowing that it could not meet its targets.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change Committee’s Review of Scottish Emissions Targets and Progress Report 2023

Meeting date: 23 April 2024

Edward Mountain

I remember you saying to the committee, when we had our annual review, that you would be reviewing the plan, and that is why you were delaying.