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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 5 July 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Governance

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Edward Mountain

Okay. On the basis of the evidence, that is probably what I should have expected, but it was not a whole-hearted ringing endorsement of the process so far.

The first committee member to ask questions will be Sarah Boyack.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Edward Mountain

Mark Ruskell has the final question.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Edward Mountain

Mark, I said that you had the final question, and you have now had three. I have pushed it as far as I can with the timing, so I am afraid that I will have to move on to the next agenda item.

The next item is a debate on motion S6M-11609, which calls on the committee to recommend approval of the draft Bus Services Improvement Partnerships (Objections) (Scotland) Regulations 2024. I remind everyone at the other end of the committee room that only the minister may speak in the debate.

Minister, do you want to speak to and move the motion?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Edward Mountain

I should say to the minister that I had been checking with the clerks whether Mr Lumsden needed to make a declaration when you pulled me up for talking while you were speaking. I can do two things at once, minister, as you will have noticed.

Before you respond to the comments, minister, I want to make one comment. I understand your comments about funding, but I would suggest that any significant changes to the way in which buses are operated and run will require significant funding.

On that note, minister, I hand back to you to sum up.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Governance

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Edward Mountain

We are pushed for time but, as you are the deputy convener, I will give way to you.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Governance

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Edward Mountain

I will limit the answers on that to one from Simon Parsons. I will then come back to Bob Doris.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Governance

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Edward Mountain

No. That is not me saying no to them answering; they are shaking their heads. Witnesses could have contributed if they wanted to do so.

Ben, I will give you, as deputy convener, the opportunity to ask your questions now.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Governance

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Edward Mountain

I will bring in Jamie Whittle first, then, to give a legal point of view. [Interruption.] I think that everything is done for you, Jamie, as far as I remember from when I contributed remotely. People activate your microphone. They are usually quite good at ensuring that it is not activated when you are making a comment that you do not want to be heard. I think that that has been done for you.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Interests

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Edward Mountain

That is interesting.

The deputy convener, Ben Macpherson, is on his way, but he is struggling slightly to get here, given the conditions, and might miss the first part of the meeting.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Edward Mountain

Agenda item 3 is consideration of a draft statutory instrument: the Bus Services Improvement Partnerships (Objections) (Scotland) Regulations 2024. I am pleased to welcome Fiona Hyslop, the Minister for Transport. The minister is joined by Liana Waclawski, a lawyer for the Scottish Government; Orsolya Keri—I might not have got the pronunciations right; I always struggle a wee bit, and I apologise, so if I have been clumsy, forgive me—the bus regulatory policy manager for Transport Scotland; and Bettina Sizeland, the director of bus, accessibility and active travel for Transport Scotland. Thank you very much for joining us today.

Following the evidence session, the committee will be invited, under the next agenda item, to consider a motion calling for the committee to recommend approval of the draft instrument. I remind everyone that the officials can speak during this item but not in the debate that follows.

I invite the minister to make a brief opening statement.