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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 16 September 2025
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Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

A9 Dualling Project

Meeting date: 24 January 2024

Edward Mountain

Yes, it is from the Edward committee. I have no land next to the A9.

Grahame, I want to go back to the comment that you made about statutory processes. There were issues with the Aberdeen western peripheral route. No prior work was done relating to some of the infrastructure adjacent to it and we had huge delays because gas pipelines and electricity lines were discovered.

I was a surveyor for 15 years, so I know that the compulsory purchase process is fairly straightforward. On the A9, the process is probably the easiest one in the world to do, because there are not many landowners along it until Dunkeld. Why is the statutory process holding up the project, despite there being few landowners and infrastructure assets running along the edge of the A9 that could be affected?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

A9 Dualling Project

Meeting date: 24 January 2024

Edward Mountain

Looking at those schemes, I can see that the Dalraddy to Kincraig section, which may have opened on budget, was certainly not on time. It was opened on the right day and then closed for another three months. In addition, the contractor on the AWPR said that it ended up losing money because there were extra costs. Do you think that that put contractors off looking at the A9 again until you came up with this new contract?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

A9 Dualling Project

Meeting date: 24 January 2024

Edward Mountain

Earlier, Roy made a comment about there being 300 landowners; that is over 80 miles of road on the A9. It is probably every compulsory purchase practitioner’s dream that there are so few, because that makes it relatively simple.

I will turn to the future, because I want to push on something that the convener mentioned, if I may. Alison Irvine, you suggested having a David Climie equivalent for the A9 work. The A9 project will cost £3.7 billion, according to Government figures. It could well increase—the cost is based on 2023 figures—by the time that it is finished in 2024. That is probably going to be closer to £4.5 billion. Are you going to have an overall supremo, making sure that all of that project works and that we get it done? I would say that, with its current staff, that is clearly outwith Transport Scotland’s ability.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Edward Mountain

That is pretty fundamental if we are to understand about ScotWind. The £750 million is just a down payment for where it is going.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Edward Mountain

We need to know that. I accept the point that the Deputy First Minister made about using the money across the budget.

I am not sure which cabinet secretary should answer this question—I always get confused. Is the £750 million option payment that was paid to the Crown Estate capital or revenue?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Edward Mountain

We will move on to the next questions, but, for clarity, what I have understood from that is that you will say when the option payments are going to come, what percentage of the £750 million overall money has been received and how much of the overall money will be on an annual basis. You will also clarify whether any of the money that has been generated by Crown Estate Scotland will stay within Crown Estate Scotland, or will be given to or taken entirely by the Scottish Government.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Edward Mountain

I have some questions that I want to direct to you, Deputy First Minister, because I will get a chance to talk to Mr Gray about the follow-ons in the next session. I want to ask you about the reprofiling—I love that word—of the small vessel replacement programme. “Reprofiling” means cutting, so what effect will that reprofiling have on the viability of Ferguson Marine shipyard? What is your assessment?

10:15  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Edward Mountain

I think that that will all be decided at a CMAL board meeting at the end of this week, unless I have the dates wildly wrong. Maybe islanders can look forward to drawing down some of the ScotWind money to help make sure that their ports are up to speed. Anyway, that is all in the future.

Thank you very much, Deputy First Minister. We will briefly suspend the meeting to allow you to move on to your next committee meeting.

10:23 Meeting suspended.  

10:30 On resuming—  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Edward Mountain

Welcome back. Mr Gray has remained at the table, alongside Colin Cook, director of economic development, and Susie Townend, deputy director for energy industries, both from the Scottish Government. We will move straight to questions. You are not getting to make another opening statement, Mr Gray—much as you might like to.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Edward Mountain

Jackie Dunbar, you have waited very patiently for your questions.