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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 16 March 2026
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

MV Glen Sannox (Hull 801) and MV Glen Rosa (Hull 802)

Meeting date: 10 March 2026

Edward Mountain

When did you complete that work?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

MV Glen Sannox (Hull 801) and MV Glen Rosa (Hull 802)

Meeting date: 10 March 2026

Edward Mountain

I have to say that that does not fill me with any confidence at all. I have heard the same thing being said before and we have ended up with increased costs. What we know is that CalMac has insured the Glen Sannox for £57 million. That is what it will cost to rebuild it. We are already up to a cost of £197.5 million for the Glen Rosa, which is, by anyone’s calculations, about four times what it should have cost, and we still do not know that it will be delivered.

I have to say that, in some ways, I will be glad when I leave Parliament and I do not have to continue to listen to this, because I am not convinced by any of the arguments that you have given. I will leave it there. I invite Michael Matheson, the deputy convener, to ask his questions.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 10 March 2026

Edward Mountain

Good morning, and welcome to the 12th meeting in 2026 of the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee. We have received apologies from Monica Lennon.

Our first item of business is a decision on taking items 5 to 8 in private. Item 5 is consideration of the evidence that we will hear on the legislative consent memorandums for the Railways Bill; item 6 is consideration of the evidence that we will hear from Ferguson Marine (Port Glasgow) Ltd; item 7 is consideration of the evidence that we will hear from Environmental Standards Scotland; and item 8 is consideration of a letter from the Presiding Officer regarding the Ecocide (Scotland) Bill. Do we agree to take these items in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

MV Glen Sannox (Hull 801) and MV Glen Rosa (Hull 802)

Meeting date: 10 March 2026

Edward Mountain

But the price would go up.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Railways Bill

Meeting date: 10 March 2026

Edward Mountain

Thank you, cabinet secretary. Our briefing tells us that it is a fairly complicated bill, which might be an understatement. There is an LCM and a supplementary LCM and there are likely to be several more LCMs before the process is complete. Will you reiterate why you asked the committee specifically to consider this before we had all the LCMs and other details in front of us?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

MV Glen Sannox (Hull 801) and MV Glen Rosa (Hull 802)

Meeting date: 10 March 2026

Edward Mountain

It sounds as if we are not going to repeat the stage where we were building the ferry before the design had been approved, which is where we were when we started the scheme with the Glen Rosa and the Glen Sannox.

I have a couple of questions. I know that Duncan Anderson is not particularly happy to look at history, but I remember David Tydeman coming in and saying that Ferguson Marine would always be 20 to 25 per cent more expensive than any other yard when it came to building ships. Was that wrong?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

MV Glen Sannox (Hull 801) and MV Glen Rosa (Hull 802)

Meeting date: 10 March 2026

Edward Mountain

What is a reasonable figure?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

MV Glen Sannox (Hull 801) and MV Glen Rosa (Hull 802)

Meeting date: 10 March 2026

Edward Mountain

You will be glad to know that it will not be me who does it, but somebody will probably come and ask you to justify it. Is that figure based on the investment that the Government is making, or is it without that investment?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

MV Glen Sannox (Hull 801) and MV Glen Rosa (Hull 802)

Meeting date: 10 March 2026

Edward Mountain

I want to understand the direct award a bit more. I presume that there will be five contract payments, as there are for most ships built around the world, and not the 18 that we had for the Glen Sannox and the Glen Rosa.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

MV Glen Sannox (Hull 801) and MV Glen Rosa (Hull 802)

Meeting date: 10 March 2026

Edward Mountain

So all of that will be paid for by the Government.