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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 14 November 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change (Emissions Reduction Targets) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Edward Mountain

You moved closer to the screen, Dr Nurse. Was that because you want to chip in?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change (Emissions Reduction Targets) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Edward Mountain

The letter that you are talking about is included in our papers. With regard to the bill before us, should we take any of the points in that letter and put them into the bill so that, in future, we can properly scrutinise what has gone on and what is being set as far as future carbon budgets are concerned?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change (Emissions Reduction Targets) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Edward Mountain

We seem to have lost the audio—

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change (Emissions Reduction Targets) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Edward Mountain

We will now go back into the meeting. Philip, you might have turned your camera off. I will ask you a simple question to see whether you are on air and what the reception is like. Is it raining in London, or wherever you are?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change (Emissions Reduction Targets) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Edward Mountain

Philip, I am afraid that the connection is getting particularly difficult and we are only catching every other word of what you are saying, so I will end the evidence session there. If there is anything that, when you have had a chance to have a quick look at—

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change (Emissions Reduction Targets) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Edward Mountain

Jackie Dunbar has been sitting quietly and waiting patiently to ask her questions, so I must ensure that she gets in.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Edward Mountain

Our next item is consideration of a statutory instrument that has been laid under the negative procedure, which means that it will come into force unless the Parliament agrees to a motion to annul it. No such motion has been lodged. The Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee made no comment on the instrument.

Since no member of this committee has any comments, I invite the committee to agree that it does not wish to make any recommendations in relation to the instrument.

Members indicated agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change (Emissions Reduction Targets) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Edward Mountain

Item 3 is evidence on the new Climate Change (Emissions Reduction Targets) (Scotland) Bill, which was introduced on 5 September. The bill seeks to amend the current approach to setting interim and annual greenhouse gas emissions reduction targets in Scotland.

The committee has been anticipating the legislation since the Scottish Government’s announcement in April of this year, and we conducted a pre-legislative call for views over the summer recess. I thank all those people who took the time to share their views with the committee. A summary of those views will be placed on our website shortly.

We have two panels of witnesses today. I am delighted to welcome the first panel, which is Dr Emily Nurse, the head of net zero on the Climate Change Committee; Professor Graeme Roy, the chair of the Scottish Fiscal Commission; and Professor David—I am going to get the pronunciation of your name wrong. Help me with this.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change (Emissions Reduction Targets) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Edward Mountain

Ulph. There we go. I got it right at the second attempt, with a prompt. Professor Ulph is a commissioner for the Scottish Fiscal Commission. Finally, I welcome Professor David Hawkey, who is a senior research fellow at the Institute for Public Policy Research Scotland.

Because there is a group of you, we will go straight to questions, and I will ask the gentle warm-up question, which will be for Emily Nurse first. Briefly, what are your thoughts on the bill as introduced to Parliament last week?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change (Emissions Reduction Targets) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Edward Mountain

I could not see anything in the financial memorandum on that, but perhaps that will come later. David Ulph, do you want to add anything?