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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 5 November 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Edward Mountain

Welcome back. Agenda item 2 is a debate on motion S6M-18060. I invite the cabinet secretary to move the motion.

Motion moved,

That the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee recommends that the Climate Change (Scotland) Act 2009 (Scottish Carbon Budgets) Amendment Regulations 2025 be approved.—[Gillian Martin.]

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Edward Mountain

Does any member want to contribute?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Edward Mountain

I am looking at the deputy convener, because I will say something and I wonder whether he wants to make it a full house by expressing his opinion.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Edward Mountain

Thank you. The question is, that motion S6M-18060, in the name of Gillian Martin, be agreed to. Are we agreed?

Members: No.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Edward Mountain

We move to questions from our deputy convener, Michael Matheson.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Edward Mountain

Gabi has her hand half up. I am afraid that that qualifies you to answer, Gabi.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Edward Mountain

I understand the difficulty, but you cannot come to someone with suggestions without giving them an idea of the actual cost. You cannot tell them the cost of not doing something without also telling them the cost of doing it.

Ellie Murtagh, do you have any idea what it will cost?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

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Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Edward Mountain

I notice nods of agreement. Do any of the witnesses wish to contribute before I go to Bob Doris for the next set of questions?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Edward Mountain

Mark Ruskell, you get the final, final question.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Edward Mountain

I am a great believer in scrutiny by parliamentary committees and in our being given the time to do that—it would be odd if a convener did not say that. Following the 120 days of public consultation, the Parliament must listen to the public and respond to what it has said. My concern is that, once those responses have been collated in a document, the committee will have little time to fully consider them prior to the climate change plan going in front of the Parliament.

I would be very happy if you were able to say to me, “Don’t worry, Edward—it’s all going to plan, it will all work, and there won’t be an unseemly rush at the end of the session before the Parliament breaks up.” That is what I am trying to get you to say. That would give me some confidence, which I do not have at the moment.