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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 29 July 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 June 2024

Edward Mountain

Bob Doris has a sequence of questions.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 June 2024

Edward Mountain

When it comes to buying an estate for natural capital, for example, a management plan that was drawn up would have to be quite detailed, would it not? It would probably have the planting schemes on a year-by-year basis and the harvesting scheme, which would be quite complex. Jill Robbie has sort of nodded.

What I am trying to get at is that that is not something that will just happen overnight. Two years ago, the state bought Glen Prosen, which is only 3,000 hectares, and it still has not come up with a management plan for it, for goodness’ sake. That will not happen overnight, will it?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 June 2024

Edward Mountain

What is not clear to me is whether, if you had cattle and an average 365-day calving interval—which meant that you were reducing the amount of barren periods—that would be sufficient to prove that you were moving towards net zero. Would it be sufficient if, say, your lambing percentage was up above 100 per cent, because you were not carrying excess animals? I do not know—that is unclear.

Does Douglas Lumsden want to ask a question?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 June 2024

Edward Mountain

I have some quick-fire questions before I let Monica Lennon come back in, and I fear that they will be for Don Macleod and Jill Robbie.

You said that what the bill sets out in relation to the community right to buy is fearfully complex and that we have not sorted out the previous arrangement. Does the bill make sense on community right to buy?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 June 2024

Edward Mountain

You can.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 June 2024

Edward Mountain

Douglas Lumsden will ask the first question.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 June 2024

Edward Mountain

The concern is that some of the smaller holdings—and there are very few of them, as Grierson Dunlop was right to point out—fall outside the crofting counties. The complexities of making them part of crofts make it easier to make them agricultural tenancies instead or to bring them in line with agricultural tenancy. I would be interested to hear what others have to say about that.

Ben Macpherson has the next questions.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 June 2024

Edward Mountain

Thanks, Ben.

Mark, I think that you have some questions now.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 June 2024

Edward Mountain

If someone diversified a proportion of the holding to the extent that farming the remainder of the holding became impossible, would that be allowed? Is there a concern about that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 June 2024

Edward Mountain

I want to check that I understand what you are saying. Let us take the example of a 600-hectare farm. Let us say that a proposal was made to use 300 hectares of it for Christmas trees, for example, because the existing farmer wanted to run a smaller number of sheep and cattle. Subsequently, it would be impossible to farm a greater number of sheep and cattle, because the land would be being used for Christmas trees. What rights does the landlord have in that situation, or does he not have any?