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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 29 July 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 June 2024

Edward Mountain

Sorry, Bob—I do not want to stop you, but I note that it would make it easier for me, because I am a simple soul, if we talked about hectares rather than square metres, just so that I understand.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 June 2024

Edward Mountain

I will press a little bit on management plans. Don Macleod said that, when it came to the costs of drawing up plans, they were not rounding errors. Let us say that you have a medium to large-sized estate with three communities on it, you go out and consult them, get their input and draw up the management plan, which, for landowners, is probably for 20 years rather than five years, because nothing happens in five years. Is a cost of £25,000 unreasonable for that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 June 2024

Edward Mountain

When I read that, I was concerned that, if somebody bought something for a hill farm, the Government might come along and tell them to take all the sheep off the hill, as that was not contributing to net zero. Would that concern you?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 June 2024

Edward Mountain

It might put them off or it might encourage them.

Monica Lennon has some questions.

10:30  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 June 2024

Edward Mountain

As always in this committee, we are up against time constraints. I will push people to ask quick questions and respond with quick answers, where possible. I think that Mark Ruskell has a supplementary.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 June 2024

Edward Mountain

Could the Government issue a letter recognising the community in 40 days? The average is 70 days, is it not?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 June 2024

Edward Mountain

So, 70 days after they phone the Government to say that they want to build a couple of houses on a small plot, they can start talking to people.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 June 2024

Edward Mountain

I said that we were up against it timewise, and I want to get through part 1 of the bill in the next 11 minutes. I invite Monica Lennon to ask her questions, followed by Douglas Lumsden.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 June 2024

Edward Mountain

I think that you have pushed your one question into becoming several questions.

That brings us to the end of the first part of the meeting. I thank Jill Robbie and Don Macleod for their evidence this morning. Fergus Colquhoun and Gail Watt are staying put for the second session.

The fact that this session has taken so long probably proves that there are complexities with a 110-page bill. There is always the chance for the witnesses to feed in written comments as a result of today’s discussion. That is not to say that we will not ask them—or other solicitors, for that matter—for further comment at future meetings.

I suspend the meeting briefly.

11:08 Meeting suspended.  

11:16 On resuming—  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 June 2024

Edward Mountain

I think that what Mr Lumsden means is a model lease for environmental purposes. We are starting with the easy question about something that we have never seen, and we are asking your opinion on it.