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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 3 August 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change (Emissions Reduction Targets) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Edward Mountain

I have a very simple question. Graeme Roy, you alluded to the multitude of moving parts: the carbon budgets, the climate change plan and the Scottish budget. David Ulph, you suggested that all of that is tied into the UK budget as well, because some of it will cover reserved matters. Why would we not align with the UK’s carbon budget periods? If we are doing this together and are intermixed, why are we coming up with different things? Emily Nurse, you were happy with that, which surprised me. Please explain.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change (Emissions Reduction Targets) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Edward Mountain

I am sorry, but before you answer that question, the one thing that never ever stops in this committee is the clock, and we are slightly up against timescales on the bill. I am going to entice people to give short answers because two committee members want to come in.

I am sorry, I do not mean to cut you off, but could you give as short an answer as possible? You can, of course, follow it up in writing if you think that you have not given the fullest answer, because we have infinite time to consider submissions in the evening after we finish committee meetings.

Monica—who do you want to answer that question?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change (Emissions Reduction Targets) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Edward Mountain

Bob Doris and Ben Macpherson, I will take your questions together so that you can both get an answer, if that is alright.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change (Emissions Reduction Targets) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Edward Mountain

Mark Ruskell has several questions, which I will try to entice him to roll into one.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change (Emissions Reduction Targets) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Edward Mountain

We reconvene for the next evidence session, which is again consideration of the Climate Change (Emissions Reduction Targets) (Scotland) Bill.

I am pleased to welcome to the committee the Rt Hon Philip Dunne, who was an MP until earlier this year and was chair of the House of Commons Environmental Audit Committee, which led parliamentary scrutiny of interim emissions targets set for the whole of the UK using a carbon budgeting approach.

We are delighted to have you here, Philip, especially as you were able to give evidence at relatively short notice. We thought that your experience in carbon budgeting would help the committee. I think that you want to give a brief opening statement. [Interruption.] I cannot hear you, so I do not know who is doing what.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change (Emissions Reduction Targets) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Edward Mountain

The sound is better, so I think that we can struggle through.

My question was, are there things that we should be considering putting in the bill to ensure that this committee can scrutinise the budgets not only during the process of their lifespan but before they are set?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change (Emissions Reduction Targets) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Edward Mountain

I think that the first carbon budget period for Scotland would be from 2026 until 2030, which is the term of the next session of Parliament. Do you think that the carbon budget should align with the parliamentary session, or should it end slightly earlier, so that the Government that has been responsible for implementing it can be held to account before there is an election?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change (Emissions Reduction Targets) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Edward Mountain

We are really struggling to hear you, in fairness. We are getting about every other word, sadly, so I will end the evidence session. However, when you have had a quick look at the bill—which I am sure you will, subsequent to the meeting—if you find anything in it on which you have not already advised us but think that you should, it would be very helpful if you would do that. I regret that we need to do that rather than continue with this session.

I will now move the meeting into private. I say goodbye and thank you, Philip, but we will hear from you.

12:29 Meeting continued in private until 12:48.  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Passenger Railway Services (Public Ownership) Bill

Meeting date: 3 September 2024

Edward Mountain

Thank you, cabinet secretary. That was an interesting announcement, and I am sure that members will be considering the questions that they want to put on it when they come to the end of the first lot of questions that we have already discussed.

I also need to make an apology, as it was remiss of me, when welcoming the Government officials, not to welcome our colleague Graham Simpson, who will be asking questions at the end of the session. Please accept my apologies if I appeared to ignore you, Graham—you were not ignored.

Douglas Lumsden will ask the first question.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Passenger Railway Services (Public Ownership) Bill

Meeting date: 3 September 2024

Edward Mountain

Okay. My point is that I want to know what the true costs are, that they will be met and that the change will not affect services in Scotland in any form. In the past, we have heard that poor railway network maintenance has resulted in reduced services in Scotland. I am sure that you will work on that.

Graham Simpson, do you want to ask any questions on this matter before we go on to the announcement that the cabinet secretary made?