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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 24 December 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 4 November 2025

Edward Mountain

I agree with you in principle, but you are saying that the bill will help to increase SAF production in Scotland. You have spoken about why you think that that should happen. I want to know what concrete evidence you have that the bill will help to increase SAF production in Scotland and where that SAF will be produced. Where do you see the SAF coming from?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 4 November 2025

Edward Mountain

We have been told in evidence that SAF will probably be produced near where it will be used the most, or in that locality. That will not necessarily be Orkney or Aberdeen, will it? Will the bill—the LCM on which you would like us to agree to—help with the production of SAF in both those areas, for example?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 4 November 2025

Edward Mountain

Douglas Lumsden has a question about pricing.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 4 November 2025

Edward Mountain

So you are happy for people to continue to fly as and when they want and to disregard the emissions from that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 November 2025

Edward Mountain

I will recap, so that I have this right in my mind. You said that there have been two events in 11 years, one of which was not taken forward and one of which is still waiting to be assessed. It does not strike me that there is a huge amount of urgency for more legislation in this area, given that we are not using what we already have.

Clive, do you want to come back on that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 November 2025

Edward Mountain

Campbell, do you want to come in on that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 November 2025

Edward Mountain

I am not sure that that is what the Parliament wants; what we are trying to achieve is good legislation, and that is why we are considering the bill in some depth.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 November 2025

Edward Mountain

I found that very interesting. The precautionary principle underpins a lot of what we do but, because of the fear that was referred to, that very principle might mean that nothing actually happens.

I see that the deputy convener wants to come in.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 November 2025

Edward Mountain

Thank you. The deputy convener, Michael Matheson, has some questions.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 4 November 2025

Edward Mountain

Good morning and welcome to the 32nd meeting in 2025 of the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee.

Sarah Boyack will be joining the committee—shortly, hopefully—for items 2 and 3 on the Ecocide (Scotland) Bill, as a substitute for Monica Lennon. Under rule 9.13A of standing orders, Monica Lennon is not entitled to exercise the rights of a committee member in relation to those items because she is the member in charge of the bill. However, Monica will be present for the evidence session on the bill because, like all other members of the Scottish Parliament, she is entitled to attend our public evidence sessions and, importantly, to have the chance to ask questions. When we get to the later agenda items that do not concern the bill, Monica is entitled to rejoin and take part in those items in her capacity as a committee member. At that stage, Sarah Boyack will not take part in our business and will leave the meeting. I hope that that is all clear.

Our first item of business this morning is a decision on taking items 3, 5 and 6 in private. Item 3 is consideration of the evidence heard on the Ecocide (Scotland) Bill. Item 5 is consideration of the evidence heard on sustainable aviation fuel and item 6 is consideration of the committee’s work programme. To ensure that we carefully adhere to the standing orders, I will split this item into two questions.

First, I will ask whether we all agree to take item 3 in private. Note that Monica Lennon may not participate in the decision, because, as I said, she is the member in charge of the bill.

I will then ask whether we agree to take items 5 and 6 in private. Monica may take part in that decision. I realise that it is rather complicated, but I am afraid that that is the way it is.

Do we agree to take item 3 in private?

Members indicated agreement.