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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 13 August 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Edward Mountain

Thank you.

Motion agreed to,

That the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee recommends that the Vehicle Emissions Trading Schemes (Amendment) Order 2024 [draft] be approved.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 2 October 2024

Edward Mountain

Ben, I would suggest that Mowi will be doing budgets for the next 10 years, if it is like any other business, and I am trying to work out how long you are budgeting to have a mortality rate of 20 to 25 per cent at sea. I accept that the industry has made changes, and I was delighted to go to the Bakkafrost facility—I will put that on the record—to see the wonderful hatchery that it is developing at Kishorn. I was grateful for that visit and the knowledge that it gave me. I am trying. Try to answer my question, please, Ben.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 2 October 2024

Edward Mountain

My next question is a general one about sea lice. I tend to agree with you; I do not think that sea lice are as much of a problem as they were, and I acknowledge that the industry has taken huge efforts to address that. However, people feel that there is a problem with you putting your smolts to sea when they are at their most vulnerable—when they are young and their skin is changing—after your having vaccinated them and treated them in preparation for going to sea, The problem is that people who represent wild fish interests might feel that they do not know whether the wild smolts that go past fish farms are affected by sea lice, because no one knows what happens to them—they disappear into the wild blue yonder. Do you think that it would be a good thing for the industry to work with organisations that represent those interests to try to iron out that lack of knowledge?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 2 October 2024

Edward Mountain

I think that we do learn some things from tracking projects. David Brown would probably reflect that there are wild salmon near Shetland, because some salmon go up past there on their way north.

Tavish, if I may, I note that, when you came into the meeting, you were quite aggressive to the members who challenged you on a particular point. Do you think that it is right for people to have an ability to challenge you and to question whether what the industry is doing is right? You were pretty forceful against them.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 2 October 2024

Edward Mountain

I remind the committee that my interest in salmon fishing on the River Spey is declared in my entry in the register of members’ interests. The fishery employs three people and has been in the family ownership for more than 73 years. I do not believe that it is directly affected by fish farms, because it is on the east coast of Scotland, not the west coast, where most fish farms are located.

09:15  

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 2 October 2024

Edward Mountain

With respect, Ben, I have not mentioned wild salmon and I have not been negative. On the basis of your comments to the REC Committee on 2 May 2018, I asked you whether you thought that that was a reasonable comment to make and, if it was, how long you thought that we would have a mortality rate of between 20 and 25 per cent. I never mentioned sea lice and I do not accept that sea lice are the biggest problem that you face. As you have made clear this morning, there are other problems. Therefore, will you answer the question of how long you think that the industry will sit at between 20 and 25 per cent mortality of fish at sea?

Please do not think that I am being negative. In the last committee meeting, I tried to stop a moratorium, and that is what happened. Give me a little bit of leeway, Ben.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 2 October 2024

Edward Mountain

My final point to you is that I think that I reasonably question you and I reasonably challenge the industry.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 2 October 2024

Edward Mountain

On 25 October 2023, at 14:30, when you came into my office, one of your comments, which I note word for word, because it was taken down for me, was:

“This issue and your attitude are top of the agenda for the next Board meeting. The Board are very unhappy with you and are willing to take action against you, unless you retract your comments in the Parliament.”

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 2 October 2024

Edward Mountain

Do you think that that is a respectful way to engage with the Parliament?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 2 October 2024

Edward Mountain

I am happy to leave it there. If I may, I was trying to identify that people have a right to challenge the industry and question it, so that we can make the industry in Scotland the industry that we want it to be and one that contributes to our export industry. However, I find it difficult when I am being physically or verbally attacked for doing just that.

I will leave it there. I apologise if I spoke over you, convener.