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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 13 August 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Edward Mountain

Sorry to interrupt, cabinet secretary. I am not so good when it comes to figures and definitions of charge points. Will somebody explain what charge point is being referred to? Is it not just a simple one? Sorry, Matthew, but you nodded when Bob Doris gave that figure. It would help me to understand that.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Edward Mountain

Ah.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Edward Mountain

I believe that Mark Ruskell had a question.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Edward Mountain

Thank you. The committee will report on the outcome of our consideration of the instrument in due course. I invite committee members to delegate authority to me as convener to approve the draft report for publication. Do members agree?

Members indicated agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Standards Scotland Climate Change Targets Delivery Improvement Report

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Edward Mountain

Before I thank the witnesses for their evidence this morning, I wonder whether Douglas Lumsden and Jackie Dunbar want to say anything about their previous roles in life, in the form of declarations of interest. You indicated that you might.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Standards Scotland Climate Change Targets Delivery Improvement Report

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Edward Mountain

I see that Monica Lennon has a question.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Edward Mountain

The second item is consideration of a draft statutory instrument. I welcome Fiona Hyslop, the Cabinet Secretary for Transport, Micheila West, solicitor, Scottish Government, and Matthew Eastwood, head of electric vehicle infrastructure, low-carbon economy directorate, Transport Scotland.

The statutory instrument is laid under the affirmative procedure, which means that it cannot come into force unless the Parliament approves it. Following this evidence session, the committee will be invited, under the next agenda item, to consider a motion to recommend that the instrument be approved. I remind everyone that the officials can speak under this item but not in the debate that follows.

Cabinet secretary, I think that you want to make a short opening statement. I always say that in the hope that any statement will be short. Over to you.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Edward Mountain

That is helpful. You used UK figures. How is it going in Scotland?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Edward Mountain

Can I make a suggestion on a way forward and see whether it meets with the committee’s approval? First of all, I think that we should take evidence in writing. If we were going to do that, I would invite committee members to submit to the clerks any questions that they would like answers to. The clerks could then send them off, and we would give a tight timescale to ensure that we got responses before 28 October to allow people to make a decision.

We could then have a short evidence-taking session on the morning of 29 October. It would mean an earlier start, but we would probably have to get the cabinet secretary in as well as any witnesses recommended by the clerks. We could take the decision on the instrument then. As far as I am aware, we have no leeway on the final date, because the SSI has to go through the Parliament. I am looking at the clerks as I say that, and they are confirming that to me.

Are we happy with that as a reasonable way of dealing with the matter?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Edward Mountain

That is an extremely good question, and I do not know the answer to it. I do know that we have a final date for lodging stage 2 amendments—I am just looking at the clerks, who are confirming to me that that date is 23 October. I will have a pretty good idea of how long that item will take once I have looked at the groupings with the legislation team, and we can then work our way through the timings. Given the timescale set by the Parliament, we might have to do what we did last week and look at meeting while Parliament is sitting.

I know that that is not a great solution, Jackie, but I see no way round it if we are going to give the matter proper scrutiny.