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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 12 November 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

MV Glen Sannox (Hull 801) and MV Glen Rosa (Hull 802)

Meeting date: 26 November 2024

Edward Mountain

Thank you very much.

That concludes the evidence session. I ask members to be back at 11 o’clock for the next evidence session. I suspend the meeting until then.

10:51 Meeting suspended.  

11:00 On resuming—  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 November 2024

Edward Mountain

Thank you. We move on to Calum MacLeod.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 November 2024

Edward Mountain

I was just looking at that. This is how it will work. When I ask a question, if either of you looks away, I will probably come to you first. Neither of you did, so Malcolm, you can go first, followed by Calum.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 November 2024

Edward Mountain

I call Calum MacLeod. [Interruption.] I do not know whether the system is confusing. I think that everything is done for you, and you just have to sit there and start speaking—I hope, if broadcasting has got it right—so fire away.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 November 2024

Edward Mountain

I thank Mark Ruskell for stopping that line of thought before he trod on somebody else’s toes.

Monica Lennon has the next questions.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 November 2024

Edward Mountain

Okay. So it is about keeping it simple.

Deputy convener, over to you.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 November 2024

Edward Mountain

Hold on, Monica—we lost your sound. We heard you say, “In your written evidence”. If you would like to, you can continue your train of thought from there.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 November 2024

Edward Mountain

I know that Kevin Stewart wants to come in, but before we move on, I will add that, in many cases, land management plans will be based on the principle of people running a business—they will have developed a land management plan to dovetail into their business and meet with the community needs where possible.

If my business was farming, for example—I have already declared that I am a farmer—my land management plan, if I were required to do it, would be about farming. If I sold the land, somebody might buy it to plant trees to meet the Government’s objective to plant trees, which might not meet the community’s need. By making a land management plan enforceable for a period of time, will you distort the land value? If so, how will you compensate it? I am saying that as a surveyor as well.

11:45  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 November 2024

Edward Mountain

We will get into non-compliance later, but I can see that interfering with the land market will come at some cost, and I am trying to figure out that cost.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 November 2024

Edward Mountain

I have a few quickfire questions to end with. Mark Ruskell said that a £5,000 fine did not seem very much, but I think that it might be a huge amount to very small farmers and landowners. Is there an argument for scaling the fine against the assets held and the size of the management plan? I am just thinking of ways around that, because £5,000 is going to be a massive amount of money to small-scale landowners, though not to some of the bigger investment companies. Would you go for scaling—yes or no?