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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 1 February 2026
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Biodiversity Beyond National Jurisdiction Bill

Meeting date: 9 December 2025

Edward Mountain

I can rephrase it, if you like.

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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 December 2025

Edward Mountain

Our second item of business is consideration of a draft statutory instrument. The Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee, in its report, made no comment on the instrument. I welcome Fiona Hyslop, Cabinet Secretary for Transport, and her supporting officials, Ninian Christie, lawyer for the Scottish Government, and Lee Shedden, head of rail sponsorship and regulation for Transport Scotland.

The instrument is laid under the affirmative procedure, which means that it cannot come into force unless the Parliament approves it. Following the evidence session, the committee will be invited to consider a motion to recommend that the instrument be approved. I remind everyone that the Scottish Government officials can speak under the current item but not in the debate that follows.

I invite the cabinet secretary to make a brief opening statement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 December 2025

Edward Mountain

Thank you very much, cabinet secretary. I understand the reasons that you have given.

How much were the people of Scotland paying for the previous audit?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 December 2025

Edward Mountain

So you are saving about £165,000?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Biodiversity Beyond National Jurisdiction Bill

Meeting date: 9 December 2025

Edward Mountain

Mr Stewart, are you challenging my position as convener?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Biodiversity Beyond National Jurisdiction Bill

Meeting date: 9 December 2025

Edward Mountain

Douglas Lumsden is next, and then I will go to Bob Doris.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 December 2025

Edward Mountain

Thank you, Monica. I am glad that you made your opening statement, because it negated some of my questions. I will go to the questions that I am still keen to ask.

Can you briefly outline what engagement you had with stakeholders and the wider public before you lodged the bill? Were stakeholders either for or against any areas of the bill?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 December 2025

Edward Mountain

Does CalMac Ferries Ltd fall into that position?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 December 2025

Edward Mountain

I am looking for other opportunities to save money because I do not know what it costs to audit those accounts. Perhaps Lee Shedden knows.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 December 2025

Edward Mountain

Thank you. I raised most of the points that I wanted to raise during the previous item. They were about the savings that will be accrued and what the costs will be to the Auditor General. I was slightly wary about whether he will have sufficient funds and resources to cover the additional work, but it sounds as if he has already negotiated those with you, cabinet secretary.

Does anyone wish to raise any points?

Members: No.