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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 15 August 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Edward Mountain

I accept the point that you make, but, according to the industry’s figures, we have gone from 7 per cent in the period from 2009 to 2012 to 25 per cent. You can talk about whether the numbers are more or less. My concern is that, if I had known where we were going to be five years later, I would have been one of those committee members who voted for a moratorium on expansion for the industry until the problems had been resolved.

I am not sure how there can be a disagreement about the figures that the industry itself is putting forward. Do we disagree that the level has gone from 7 per cent to 25 per cent?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Edward Mountain

I am talking about the figures in 2018 or 2009.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Edward Mountain

This is where we are boxing over figures that we do not know.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Edward Mountain

To clarify, recommendation 3 was about the “expansion of existing sites”, so it was about not allowing sites to get bigger—that was the recommendation. I take the cabinet secretary’s point about the industry doing a huge amount of work and all the work that you are doing behind the scenes, but deaths have doubled as a percentage—that is a fact.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Edward Mountain

I accept that, but the fact is that mortality has gradually increased, and 2023 was perhaps a bad year. This year might be slightly better, as it has been somewhat cooler, but nevertheless the rate has increased. The other day, Ben Hadfield gave evidence to this committee, and he said that he was confident enough to predict a 2 per cent drop in mortality every year. That is the figure that Mowi is looking at, and it means that it will take us about five years to get back to the 2018 figures. If we want to get back to the 2009 figures, we are looking at a lot longer than that. Does the industry have to speed up reducing mortality, or can the situation be allowed to continue as it is?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Edward Mountain

As a farmer, I understand that mortality happens when you are farming animals. However, if mortality on a land-based farm more than doubled because of the way that the industry was operating, the farmer would not be able to get away with it. Recommendation 9 of the Rural Economy and Connectivity Committee’s report, which I remember discussing at some length, says that

“no expansion should be permitted at sites which report high or significantly increased levels of mortalities, until these are addressed”.

That was a key recommendation, which prevented the committee supporting calls for a moratorium, as referred to in recommendation 3. Have the requirements of recommendation 9 been met?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Edward Mountain

So, what was the figure, if it was not 7 per cent. Was it 12 per cent?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Edward Mountain

I kind of hear what you are saying, but we know that, in 2012, mortality was 12,000 tonnes and, in 2023, it was 33,000 tonnes. I understand that there has been an increase in production, but that is more than double.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Edward Mountain

Thank you, convener. I would like to push that just a wee bit, because the evidence to the 2018 committee was based on figures from 2009 onwards. It would be helpful to extend the information that you have asked for to cover that, which I am sure is within the cabinet secretary’s remit.

I will move on to my final question. Based on everything that we have heard today, very few of the 65 recommendations in the REC Committee report have transpired into anything, and the industry has pushed on. If we reran recommendation 3 in the report and put the issue to the committee now, would you be surprised if it took a different view?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Edward Mountain

I remind committee members, and those watching the meeting, that I declare in my entry in the register of members’ interests that I am part of a partnership in a wild salmon fishery on the River Spey. I have been involved in salmon management for more than 40 years. I will probably leave it at that.