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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 5 July 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Edward Mountain

There will be a division.

For

Ruskell, Mark (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green)

Against

Doris, Bob (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (SNP)
Lumsden, Douglas (North East Scotland) (Con)
Matheson, Michael (Falkirk West) (SNP)
Mountain, Edward (Highlands and Islands) (Con)
Stewart, Kevin (Aberdeen Central) (SNP)

Abstentions

Lennon, Monica (Central Scotland) (Lab)

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Edward Mountain

There will be a division.

For

Ruskell, Mark (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green)

Against

Doris, Bob (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (SNP)
Lumsden, Douglas (North East Scotland) (Con)
Matheson, Michael (Falkirk West) (SNP)
Mountain, Edward (Highlands and Islands) (Con)
Stewart, Kevin (Aberdeen Central) (SNP)

Abstentions

Lennon, Monica (Central Scotland) (Lab)

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Edward Mountain

The question is, that amendment 483 be agreed to. Are we agreed?

Members: No.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Edward Mountain

We move on to small landholdings: general. Amendment 488, in the name of the cabinet secretary, is grouped with amendments 489, 490, 508, 508A, 508B, 509, 491, 492, 510, 493 to 496, 216, 511, 498, 499, 512, 500, 506 and 513. I call the cabinet secretary to move amendment 488 and speak to all the amendments in the group.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Edward Mountain

The next group is on model leases. Amendment 183, in the name of Tim Eagle, is grouped with amendments 487 and 380. I call Tim Eagle to move amendment 183 and speak to all the amendments in the group.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Edward Mountain

Group 28 is on new crofts and small landholdings. Amendment 381, in the name of Rhoda Grant, is in a group on its own. Mercedes Villalba will speak to and move amendment 381.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Edward Mountain

Having read the amendment carefully, I am unclear about how many new crofts or how many small landholdings would have to be created. That creates questions, which would mean that the regulations would constantly be challenged.

I also struggle with whether the amendment takes into account crofting estates and how new crofts would be created without causing problems to the original crofting owners, and whether, on those estates, the areas that might be included would include a share of the common grazings, which would completely skew the use of the common grazings of the remaining crofters.

As far as the Small Landholders (Scotland) Act 1911 is concerned, we have very few small landholders within that act. I can never remember quite how many there are, but I think that the number is around 70 or 80, or maybe fewer—maybe it is in the 60s. I do not know; the cabinet secretary will no doubt explain that. The evidence that we took from the people who are involved in this suggested that, rather than creating more, they would rather move such landholdings into agricultural tenancies, which may be the way forward to protect them and ensure that they survive. However, I will go to the cabinet secretary on those points.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Edward Mountain

Amendment 219, Mr Eagle—I got the numbers in the right order.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Edward Mountain

In this group, yes.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Edward Mountain

Sorry, Mr Ewing, I cannot hear your dulcet tones as well as I would like to. Can you adjust the microphone? That is it. Thank you.