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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 13 August 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 December 2024

Edward Mountain

I see that Andrew Wood wants to come in, but can I ask witnesses to say whether they have ever applied for and had issued to them a certificate of bad husbandry?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 December 2024

Edward Mountain

Thanks, Kevin. I am never sure whether we know quite how many there are. I have heard that there are 50, and I have heard that there are 80. I have not heard any advance on that, but it seems to be quite a small number.

The next question is on the registration of tenants’ right to buy. In the first piece of legislation on this matter, which came out in 2003, there was a requirement for registration, but, if I remember correctly, that was removed in 2016. Well, there was the ability to remove it, but nothing was ever done about it. Now this bill is suggesting something else. Is the bill right? Do we need to keep changing this—or keep suggesting that it be changed but not changing it? What is the simple way of doing this?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 December 2024

Edward Mountain

Does anyone disagree with Hamish Lean? If not, that is perfect. “Leave well alone and move on” is the message that I think I am getting.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 December 2024

Edward Mountain

Our third item of business is an evidence session on the Land Reform (Scotland) Bill. Today, we are taking evidence from a range of practitioners on part 2 of the bill.

I am pleased to welcome?Hamish Lean, partner and head of rural property, Shepherd and Wedderburn LLP; Martin Hall, senior director, Davidson & Robertson; Tom Oates, director, Oates Rural; and Andrew Wood, partner, residential development, Bidwells. Thank you all for accepting the invitation to speak to us this morning.

I am also pleased to welcome for this item Rhoda Grant MSP, who will have an opportunity to ask a few questions once committee members have asked theirs.

I remind members that I have an interest in a farming partnership in Moray, as set out in my entry in the register of members’ interests. Specifically, I declare an interest as an owner of approximately 500 acres of farmed land, of which about 50 acres is woodland. I also declare that I am a tenant on approximately 500 acres in Moray under a non-agricultural tenancy, and that I have another farming tenancy under the Agricultural Holdings (Scotland) Act 1991. I also declare that I sometimes take on grass lets on a short-term basis.

I should also point out that, in 2005, I worked with Bidwells and I knew Andrew Wood when I was working there.

We will now move straight to questions from committee members. Monica Lennon will ask the first one.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 December 2024

Edward Mountain

We have slightly overshot our timing. I will keep my last question very simple; it refers back to something that I said earlier.

I am looking at the evidence that you submitted to the committee. To remind you, it says:

“the water, waste and PPC regimes”

will change “from ... 2025” and that will be led by “digital transformation”.

It slightly worries me that, with less than a year to go, you are talking about “developing” and “creating” things to try to deliver efficiencies through a computer system with which, I stress, I think that SEPA is still struggling. Can you set my mind at rest and convince me that you are going to be digitally ready by November 2025?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 December 2024

Edward Mountain

Martin Hall, did you want to add something?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 December 2024

Edward Mountain

Before we leave this issue, I want to go back to something that was questioned earlier. Lotting is triggered if you have an estate of a certain size, and you want to sell something off.

On one of our visits, we heard that there are often numerous different sales going on—houses or little bits of ground for a pony paddock or an extension to the garden—but, under the bill, if somebody came along and asked an estate whether it would sell them their house, the estate has to say absolutely nothing, pull the shutters down and contact the Scottish ministers. Is that progressive or is that overkill?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 December 2024

Edward Mountain

Rhoda Grant will get her moment now. She has waited very patiently.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 December 2024

Edward Mountain

Magnus’s hand is up, as is Andy’s. Rhoda, if you do not mind, we will go to Magnus first and then to Andy.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 December 2024

Edward Mountain

Okay. We come to the deputy convener.