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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 11 November 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 February 2025

Edward Mountain

I am glad that you clarified that, because it could have ended up with lots of correspondence coming to the committee. When the Government introduces its crofting reform bill, perhaps it will clarify which of the three acts on crofting we are supposed to be working under, and will resolve all the sump issues that were brought up years ago. It will all be easier, and small landholders will then be able to decide whether they want to become crofters.

We have come to the end of our evidence session. Much to my annoyance, we have skipped over some questions. Cabinet secretary, we will send you those in writing, and I ask that you respond to them fairly quickly. Fiona—if you respond to Rhoda Grant, I ask that you do so through the committee, and we will ensure that she receives the answers to her questions.

We will now have a short break from land reform matters before we start considering our stage 1 report, which I am sure will be a lengthy but interesting process. We will make a start on that in roughly two weeks’ time.

I thank our witnesses very much for their evidence. I suspend the meeting for five minutes.

12:05 Meeting suspended.  

12:08 On resuming—  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 February 2025

Edward Mountain

That was done by the Scottish Land Commission, which has come up with a whole heap of recommendations post the bill’s publication. You listened to the commission before, but you have not listened to it on the bill.

Anyway, there are lots of follow-up questions. Kevin Stewart will be first.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 February 2025

Edward Mountain

One of the things that I have found difficult is that the Scottish Land Commission, which I assume you spoke to before you introduced the bill—you certainly pay it £1.5 million to give the Government advice—disagreed with the proposals and has come up with a whole list of additional evidence. Surely that is not helpful. Surely that evidence should have come in before the bill was introduced. Why do you ignore the concerns that the Scottish Land Commission says that it has had for some time?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 February 2025

Edward Mountain

I am glad that you mentioned the community right to buy. I am sure that we will come back to it, but I note that the findings of the consultation will be disclosed post the next stage of the bill’s consideration, which is hardly ideal.

I go back to the fact that this is our third tranche of land reform legislation since the Scottish Parliament came in, and all of it has focused on rural areas, with nothing on urban areas. Are you saying that all the problems are in the countryside and that there is nothing in urban areas?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 February 2025

Edward Mountain

We move on to questions from Douglas Lumsden.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 February 2025

Edward Mountain

The bill suggests that the tenant farming commissioner will be approached to produce a valuer, does it not?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Appointment of the Chair of Environmental Standards Scotland

Meeting date: 18 February 2025

Edward Mountain

You are not forgotten, Monica.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 February 2025

Edward Mountain

The TFC will have to produce a valuer. I think that the TFC is saying, “Let us produce a valuer if agreement cannot be reached”. Would that not be a worthwhile amendment?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 February 2025

Edward Mountain

What about agreeing the compensation 12 months in advance? Fiona, you have just said that steel and fertiliser prices go up in days, let alone over 12-month periods. What it costs to produce a fence today may be doubled tomorrow. According to your books, a metre of deer fence costs £50. Is 12 months a reasonable period, or should it be shorter?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 February 2025

Edward Mountain

In response to your comment, I have to say that I think that they will do as much damage as the proposals that are being suggested. My question to you is therefore this: how do you compensate somebody? You are suggesting that there will be a different form of compensation. When I enter a lease with somebody, as people have done with me, they know that I am going to farm the land and I am not going to do anything else with it. I am not after the hope value—I am there to farm it. If they want me to leave—because they can, say, build a house on it—do you think that I should get a bit of the house value, or should I just get the value that I have lost from the farmland?