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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 10 June 2025
Edward Mountain
I call Tim Eagle to speak to amendment 407 and any other amendments in the group.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 10 June 2025
Edward Mountain
Experience has taught me that, when a landowner signs up to a land management plan, if there is criticism of their objectives and actions, bodies such as NatureScot—Scottish Natural Heritage, as was—run for the hills rather than supporting the land management plan that they signed up to. A land management plan has to work both ways. Once it is signed up and agreed to, it must be supported not only by the landowner, who has developed it in conjunction with the community, but by the community that signed up to it taking part in it and the Government bodies that have asked for it. It needs to be progressive.
The committee heard views on the costings of land management plans. We heard from one witness who suggested that it might cost £60,000 to produce a land management plan, but we thought that that was particular to a specific area, and that land management plans would be graduated in cost. We also heard from two land agents who suggested that £10,000 to £15,000 for a 1,000-hectare estate farm would be relevant.
My concern is that the level of community engagement that might be required is still not bottomed out. Maybe that is something for stage 3. Community engagement can take a considerable amount of time. I gave the example of Glen Prosen. Three years after the Scottish Government purchased it for the people of Scotland, we still do not have a land management plan for it, because community engagement is occurring. It might appear in the next week as a result of this conversation, but I doubt it. It is going to take a considerable amount of time.
I would like to see more bottoming out of the idea, and I would like to work with the cabinet secretary on what community engagement means. If we can get community engagement right, and resolve the issue of the depth of and requirements in the land management plan, they should not necessarily frighten people who are taking part.
I would be grateful if the cabinet secretary could wind up and perhaps agree with everything that I have said—but maybe she will not.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 10 June 2025
Edward Mountain
It is up to you, Mr Eagle, whether you want to take an intervention, but your enthusiasm may preclude it.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 10 June 2025
Edward Mountain
There will be a division.
For
Lumsden, Douglas (North East Scotland) (Con)
Mountain, Edward (Highlands and Islands) (Con)
Against
Doris, Bob (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (SNP)
Lennon, Monica (Central Scotland) (Lab)
Matheson, Michael (Falkirk West) (SNP)
Ruskell, Mark (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green)
Stewart, Kevin (Aberdeen Central) (SNP)
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 10 June 2025
Edward Mountain
I ask Tim Eagle to speak to amendment 418 and any other amendments in the group.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 10 June 2025
Edward Mountain
That is correct, and local place plans were also raised at some stages during our evidence.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 10 June 2025
Edward Mountain
I call Mark Ruskell to speak to amendment 127A and any other amendments in the group.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 10 June 2025
Edward Mountain
No, you could not.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 10 June 2025
Edward Mountain
I am reflecting on what the cabinet secretary said in relation to amendment 115, which would increase the 40-day period to 70 days and, in effect, give an overall 100-day standstill period. I am happy to take an intervention from the cabinet secretary if I have missed something, but, if it becomes blatantly obvious during the 100-day standstill period that nothing will be achieved, I am unclear about whether it is mandatory for that period to last 100 days or whether it could be closed off if there was no community interest in the matter or the community was clear that it was unlikely to achieve anything.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 10 June 2025
Edward Mountain
There will be a division.
For
Lennon, Monica (Central Scotland) (Lab)
Ruskell, Mark (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green)
Against
Doris, Bob (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (SNP)
Lumsden, Douglas (North East Scotland) (Con)
Matheson, Michael (Falkirk West) (SNP)
Mountain, Edward (Highlands and Islands) (Con)
Stewart, Kevin (Aberdeen Central) (SNP)