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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 3 August 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Edward Mountain

Hold on, now you are adding another dimension. Just tell me this: the ship sits deeper in the water—is that right?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Edward Mountain

I will go back to the original question. From what you said, Jim, the ferry did not meet the original specifications that were laid out when it was supposed to be built.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Edward Mountain

Which is quite a critical thing, I would suggest. Who made the decision to accept that ferry with that built into it? Was it CMAL, Transport Scotland or the Scottish Government?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Edward Mountain

So, maybe, maybe not. I am not sure that I am any clearer on that, so I might have to come back to you.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Edward Mountain

Jim Anderson, to save you looking it all up, I think that I have the figures to hand. The vessel was meant to have a dead weight of 878 tonnes, with a tolerance of 10 tonnes. There were penalties of £5,000 per tonne for falling below that weight, up to a maximum of £250,000, which would have meant that it was 50 tonnes below the weight, down to 818 tonnes. At that point, the boat should have been cancelled, according to the original contract, because it did not meet the specification.

What I was trying to drive at is that the boat can carry less than was originally agreed—less than the contract was set up for—which means that it is not doing what it was expected to achieve. That, therefore, raises the question of whether you have value for money, in my mind—especially now, as you can have fewer passengers and fewer vehicles. It appears to me that we have ended up with a boat that does not meet the original contract, however it has panned out. We have not got what we paid for, and we paid considerably more than we thought we were going to have to pay. To me, the whole thing seems to be a complete confusion. I am going to leave it there, because I think that I have made my point.

Kevin Hobbs, I think that you specifically asked for the anchor chain to be retested during the trials—unless I have got that wrong. [Interruption.] I am being told that it was Jim Anderson who asked for it, so my knowledge of that was wrong.

Jim, you asked for the anchor chain to be retested, and there was going to be a quick fix, which would allow it to be workable by February this year, which is after it goes into service. We were told that anchor chains are not that vital but that they are part of a safety feature. Has it been fixed or will it be fixed before the vessel starts carrying passengers?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Edward Mountain

Okay. I think that the latest that we have heard is that, subject to the toilets being fixed, the vessel will come into use on 13 January. It will then have to come out of service again to get the anchor fixed. How long does that take?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Edward Mountain

It would be helpful to know how long it will take, so that people know what is coming down the chain to them. If you asked that question yesterday, you would not be surprised that I asked it today.

Douglas Lumsden will ask the next question.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Edward Mountain

What?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Edward Mountain

I hear that, but in 2006 or thereabouts, when CMAL was set up, it was meant to be an arm’s-length organisation to organise the ships. It now appears that you have been subsumed as part of the arm of the Government, which questions the whole issue of why CMAL was set up.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Edward Mountain

Okay.