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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 30 July 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 January 2025

Edward Mountain

Well done, Megan MacInnes, for getting it in.

On management plans transferring with ownership, an estate is up for sale in the Highlands, which Jeremy Leggett is selling, with a management plan in place. One of the requirements is that the buyer has to buy it with that management plan. I do not think that he has not found a buyer yet, but I might be wrong.

My question is for Tim Kirkwood. If people who are acquiring estates are not allowed to change what happens on that estate for a period of time, might that stop them helping the Scottish Government to reach its net zero targets?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 January 2025

Edward Mountain

It could be an interesting point because crofters have the absolute right to buy their croft and without having exemptions, that provision could be triggered.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 January 2025

Edward Mountain

I am just thinking that through. To pass legislation that you know might get amended does not work for me as a politician, although I am sure that it would work for some other people.

On that note, I will hand over to Mark Ruskell for his questions.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 January 2025

Edward Mountain

I am going to get in a short and simple question at the end. I am looking for a yes or no answer and, just to give you fair warning, I will be going in reverse order from when I started.

The cabinet secretary has outlined the three main aims of the bill as introduced, which are to give communities greater involvement in decisions, to promote more diverse ownership and to benefit environmental purposes and modernise the legal framework for tenant farming and smallholdings. Those were her aims. Will the bill as introduced deliver those—yes or no?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 January 2025

Edward Mountain

Megan, with respect, I have to let some of the other witnesses come in as well. I think you have had a fairly good run at it.

I want to bring in Laura Hamlet on the issue of the prior notification for a crofting estate. If somebody wanted to buy their croft and their apportionment or have their common grazing apportionment tied into that, they would have to go through the prior notification period. Does that worry you? On the basis of the Scottish Land Commission’s latest recommendations, that might add 90 days to the process. Have you thought about that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 January 2025

Edward Mountain

In fairness, I can see from looking at the paperwork that the bit at Lochaber has probably been missed off. Our paper certainly mentions Loch Eriboll, which is Wildland’s northern bit, and Glen Feshie, so I think that that might be the discrepancy there.

I will go to the deputy convener, Michael Matheson.

09:30  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 January 2025

Edward Mountain

I am sorry to interrupt, Monica. That clarifies the matter.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 28 January 2025

Edward Mountain

Good morning, and welcome to the fourth meeting in 2025 of the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee.

Our first agenda item is a decision on whether to take items 3 and 4 in private. Item 3 is consideration of the evidence heard on the Land Reform (Scotland) Bill, and item 4 is consideration of the committee’s work programme. Does the committee agree to take those items in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 January 2025

Edward Mountain

Mark Ruskell has the next question.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 January 2025

Edward Mountain

One of the problems with having a large panel is that everyone wants to answer every question, which, I am sorry to tell you, ain’t going to be possible. If your view is the same as that of someone who has already spoken, do not feel that you need to chip in and give an explanation for why that is the case—we will take that as read. We would like, if possible, to hear dissenting views.

That will save me from signalling to the gentleman in the broadcasting team to cut off your microphone if you go on a long diatribe. I have done that only once as convener, and I hope that I will never need to do it again. I ask you to keep your answers as short as possible.

One thing that did not come out of that discussion was the cost of community engagement. I will ask a question about that at the end, so you can be thinking about that.

Monica Lennon will ask the next question.