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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 10 November 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

Edward Mountain

Good morning, and welcome to the 15th meeting in 2025 of the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee.

The first item on the agenda is a decision on taking business in private. Does the committee agree to take in private item 3, which is consideration of the evidence that we will hear on Scotland’s train and bus services, and item 4, which is consideration of the committee’s work programme?

Members indicated agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Train and Bus Services

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

Edward Mountain

I am just trying to express the view that, if you were leaving your house in the morning on a journey across Edinburgh and onwards to an island, it would be much easier to do that if there were an integrated ticketing system. Sarah Boyd, do you want to comment on integrated ticketing and travel connections?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Train and Bus Services

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

Edward Mountain

We had an integrated ticketing scheme for the 26th United Nations climate change conference of the parties—COP26—but did it not seem appropriate to roll it out to the rest of Scotland? I do not think that Sarah Boyd can answer that, but Duncan Cameron can.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Train and Bus Services

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

Edward Mountain

I just want to say we are halfway through the session, but we are not halfway through the answers. I say to David, Duncan and Sarah that I know that it is always attractive to say that you are better than each other. However, I want to get all the questions in, so where you agree, it would be helpful to me if you could just say, “Agreed,” rather than building on it too much. That is probably a cack-handed way of putting that.

The next questions are from Mark Ruskell.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Train and Bus Services

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

Edward Mountain

You have certainly worked out how to do dynamic pricing to an exceptional level, which means that the cost for travelling on a sleeper at short notice is very high. Anyway, we will leave that and maybe come back to it.

Bob Doris has the next question.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Train and Bus Services

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

Edward Mountain

Thank you. The next questions come from Mark Ruskell.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Train and Bus Services

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

Edward Mountain

Surely, Sarah, it is the opposite for you at Lothian Buses in Edinburgh—or is it not?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Train and Bus Services

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

Edward Mountain

David, do you want to answer the question? I would also suggest that the reason for the decline in bus patronage in rural areas is reliability. Do you want to address that, too, David?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Train and Bus Services

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

Edward Mountain

Are those the buses in the rural areas—the ones that do not come into low emission zones?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Train and Bus Services

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

Edward Mountain

A cynic would say that Abellio could also have produced that report, to get them off the punctuality target that is not being met. They were achieving a better figure than you are at the moment and running more trains, so there was more scope for it to go wrong. I am not sure that you have answered the question, except to say that there is more to do. I do not know. What about Graham? Do you want to add anything to that?