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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 2 April 2026
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 3 March 2026

Edward Mountain

Thank you. We will move to questions. Given that part of the questioning will definitely revolve around agriculture, I remind members of my entry in the register of members’ interests. I have an interest in an arable and livestock farm in Moray that deals with beef production and herd replacement.

I will begin by voicing some concerns in order to see whether you share them, Emma. We are in the dying days of this parliamentary session: we have three more committee meetings and three—perhaps three and a half—more sitting weeks. We are at the stage where we have just considered the climate change plan in draft, and yet the Government has undertaken to lay the plan before the end of the session, which does not give it much time to reflect on what you have said or on what we have said. Is having so little time to consider what is, in your words, a critical stage of Scotland’s move to net zero a happy place to be?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 3 March 2026

Edward Mountain

Are you telling me that Scottish Government officials said that a private briefing was the appropriate way to do it? I am sorry for pushing you on that, but that does not quite tally with my memory of the conversations and correspondence with the Scottish Government.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 3 March 2026

Edward Mountain

Are you taking over the role of the convener in allocating the next question? [Laughter.]

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 3 March 2026

Edward Mountain

It is a bit late in the day for that, Sarah. Mark, you are next.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 3 March 2026

Edward Mountain

I will stay on electric vehicles, but I will move away from cars and talk more about heavy goods vehicles.

As a farmer, when I look at tractors nowadays and think about putting batteries in them, I am probably convinced that they could never go into a field, because they would sink. However, HGVs go on the road. We have heard from the industry that the proposals to move HGVs to electric vehicles are probably unachievable in the medium term, not only because of the price of electricity per unit, which is three times the cost of a diesel unit at the moment—a lot of small operators could not afford that—but because of the fact that the vehicles sit idle for a huge amount of time, recharging so that they are able to carry out their work. Economically, those vehicles are not viable, because the price per mile that HGV drivers get is pretty minimal anyway.

What about drop-in fuels? Do you accept that there is a place for them, because HGVs are not going to go electric in the timescale that the Government and you might like?

Emily Nurse was quicker and Emma Pinchbeck sort of looked at her thinking, “Well, she can answer that,” so I will go to you, Emily.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 3 March 2026

Edward Mountain

I will just push back on the term “some difficulties”. We have heard from the industry that, in the short to medium term, the electric vehicle targets for it are unobtainable. That is slightly more than “some difficulties”, is it not?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 3 March 2026

Edward Mountain

I will come back to that at the end, Emma. It is fine to make recommendations and say what the way forward should be, but it always concerns me when the plan is to then pass the work of costing and paying for that to someone else.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 3 March 2026

Edward Mountain

Thank you, and thanks, Bob, for getting your questions in as quickly as possible. We move to questions from Kevin Stewart.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 March 2026

Edward Mountain

There are no plans to do so—okay.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 March 2026

Edward Mountain

That is an interesting point, on which we could write to the Government when we give notification of our position. That would be useful. We have all noticed the issues that you have mentioned.

Members have no other comments to make. We are therefore making no recommendation in relation to the instrument. Do we agree to note that to the Government and to write about the specific point that Sarah Boyack mentioned—ensuring that repairs are long lasting?

Members indicated agreement.