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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 26 July 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 February 2025

Edward Mountain

The responses from people regarding whether that was a good or a bad idea were a bit more nuanced. Would it have been helpful to have a lease-forming part of the bill rather than introducing it through secondary legislation?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 February 2025

Edward Mountain

I am trying to find out whether there is a view; you say that you are using a different word with the same effect, which creates confusion.

I have a further question on diversification and how rent reviews take place. Farms, whether they are owner occupied or tenanted, have to look at all the options to make ends meet, because things are different. Ten years ago, a farm probably needed two farm labourers to do what one labourer can do now, because of machinery. That might throw up the issue of diversifying the use of a house, or a house might no longer be required. The bill does not cover that at all. Is that a mistake?

As Fiona Leslie said, farming is changing so quickly, so should we consider that the resources that are needed for farming should be changed? Should that be taken into account when setting rent to allow the landlord and the tenant—or the occupier and owner, if they are the same person—to make the best use of a property?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 February 2025

Edward Mountain

Cabinet secretary, I am sure that you would like to answer that question, but I know that parliamentarians have very strong views about introducing at stage 2 things that have not been consulted on at stage 1.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 February 2025

Edward Mountain

I might find myself in complete disagreement with a fellow committee member, but I ask you to bear that in mind.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 February 2025

Edward Mountain

I listened carefully, cabinet secretary.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 18 February 2025

Edward Mountain

As no other member has any comments, I will move to the substantive question. Is the committee content that the provisions set out in the notification should be made in the proposed UK statutory instrument, subject to writing to the Scottish Government at the same time to say that we are concerned about why the process has proceeded in this way?

Members indicated agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 February 2025

Edward Mountain

Okay. Cabinet secretary, you will be pleased to know that I am not going to be allowed by the rest of the committee to ask all my other technical questions, so I will submit them in writing.

We will turn to questions from Mark Ruskell.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Appointment of the Chair of Environmental Standards Scotland

Meeting date: 18 February 2025

Edward Mountain

Thank you. We will consider the recommendation that we will make to the Parliament as a result of this discussion, later in the meeting. The clerks will be in touch with you. Thank you for your time this morning and for waiting patiently when I let the earlier part of the meeting run over time.

We will move on because we are quite pushed for time.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 18 February 2025

Edward Mountain

The next item of business is the consideration of a type 1 consent notification relating to a proposed statutory instrument, the Persistent Organic Pollutants (Amendment) (No 2) Regulations 2025.

On 22 January, the Scottish Government notified us of this proposed UK statutory instrument. It would involve the UK Government legislating in devolved competence and it is seeking the Scottish Government’s consent to do so.

The Scottish Government proposes to give its consent and our role is to decide whether we agree to its doing that. That involves determining whether we agree to the UK Government legislating in this particular devolved area and whether we are content with the manner in which the UK Government proposes to legislate. If we are content for consent to be given, we will write to the Scottish Government saying so. In doing so, we have the option to draw the Scottish Government’s attention to matters or to pose questions. There were some suggestions in the clerks’ papers for things that we could consider.

Do any members have views on the statutory instrument?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 18 February 2025

Edward Mountain

Things are seldom ideal. I understand your concerns and we can certainly include them in our letter to the Scottish Government. Are you content to agree to the instrument, having drawn the Government’s attention to that point? What is your position?