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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 23 July 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Environmental Standards Scotland (Annual Report and Accounts 2023-24 and Future Priorities)

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Edward Mountain

Richard, are you going to tell me that you are more optimistic than Mark Roberts?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Edward Mountain

All Governments have problems with computer systems, as we have seen in the past, and SEPA has been one of them. I will be interested to see how the oversight group responds. From the committee’s point of view, once the system has gone live on 1 November it would be interesting to have an update from the cabinet secretary on how it is responding. I am sure that you would be happy to feed into that.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Environmental Standards Scotland (Annual Report and Accounts 2023-24 and Future Priorities)

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Edward Mountain

Perhaps you could call it a threatened solution—or maybe not.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Environmental Standards Scotland (Annual Report and Accounts 2023-24 and Future Priorities)

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Edward Mountain

Whatever happens, the plan will probably not be agreed until March next year, so the current Parliament will be binding definitely two, and possibly three, future Parliaments to achieving what we need to by 2045. To me, that seems to be a very difficult situation to be in. I cannot work out whether it is better to do a lot of the work and then let a new Parliament agree to a plan when it is convened.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Environmental Standards Scotland (Annual Report and Accounts 2023-24 and Future Priorities)

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Edward Mountain

Yes—I have a couple of questions on river basin management plans. It is about not just pollution but a change in the water quality. For example, I know that, on the Spey, increased temperature is a threat because cooling water is going into the river, which has an effect on flora and fauna. In addition, there is the abstraction of water—we know that 40 per cent of the water above Aviemore that should go into the Spey is being hived off to the Tay or down to Fort William to generate power.

When you look at the river basin management plans, you will no doubt be looking at Q95 flows, which I am not sure that anyone truthfully understands, and any response to them does not plan for them being potentially breached. Are you going to do any work on all the pressures on the river? It is not just what is flowing into it but the effects of industry and abstraction, as well.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Environmental Standards Scotland (Annual Report and Accounts 2023-24 and Future Priorities)

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Edward Mountain

I will hand back to Mark Ruskell.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Environmental Standards Scotland (Annual Report and Accounts 2023-24 and Future Priorities)

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Edward Mountain

As there are no further questions that the committee would like to raise, I thank Richard Dixon and Mark Roberts for coming to the meeting and giving evidence today. There are a few things that we will need to follow up with you, and the clerks will prompt you about the issues on which we are looking for answers.

11:47 Meeting continued in private until 12:13.  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Environmental Standards Scotland (Annual Report and Accounts 2023-24 and Future Priorities)

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Edward Mountain

Sorry, I will push a little more on water temperatures. There is the whole issue around decreased summer flows, which we appear to be getting, except for extraordinary events where there are spates in rivers. If there is less water, the water temperature will be warmer because the water level will be shallower across a river. That will have an effect on the flora and fauna; it might encourage algal and weed growth or be a detriment to freshwater mussels, salmon or any other species. Will you look at that, or are you happy for us to allow water temperatures on the Spey, say, to go up by 4 degrees because of industrial activity?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Environmental Standards Scotland (Annual Report and Accounts 2023-24 and Future Priorities)

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Edward Mountain

I hope that you have heard my comments, Mark.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Environmental Standards Scotland (Annual Report and Accounts 2023-24 and Future Priorities)

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Edward Mountain

It sounds as if there is a massive amount of work to do, and it is all in the last months of this session of Parliament. I must say that I have grave concerns about the whole process and the fact that it is running when we are running out of time.

Douglas, did you have a question?