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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 24 June 2025
Edward Mountain
There will be a division.
For
Doris, Bob (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (SNP)
Lennon, Monica (Central Scotland) (Lab)
Matheson, Michael (Falkirk West) (SNP)
Ruskell, Mark (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green)
Stewart, Kevin (Aberdeen Central) (SNP)
Against
Lumsden, Douglas (North East Scotland) (Con)
Mountain, Edward (Highlands and Islands) (Con)
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 24 June 2025
Edward Mountain
The result of the division is: For 5, Against 2, Abstentions 0.
Amendment 277 agreed to.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 24 June 2025
Edward Mountain
There will be a division.
For
Doris, Bob (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (SNP)
Lennon, Monica (Central Scotland) (Lab)
Matheson, Michael (Falkirk West) (SNP)
Ruskell, Mark (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green)
Stewart, Kevin (Aberdeen Central) (SNP)
Against
Lumsden, Douglas (North East Scotland) (Con)
Mountain, Edward (Highlands and Islands) (Con)
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 24 June 2025
Edward Mountain
The result of the division is: For 5, Against 2, Abstentions 0.
Amendment 304 agreed to.
Section 24, as amended, agreed to.
Section 25 agreed to.
After section 25
Amendment 520 not moved.
Sections 26 and 27 agreed to.
After section 27
Amendment 305 moved—[Mairi Gougeon].
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 24 June 2025
Edward Mountain
If no other member wishes to speak on this group, I will say a couple of things before I invite the cabinet secretary to come in. When we considered the bill at stage 1, the issue of game damage was discussed. There was some evidence of game damage being a problem, but the majority of people from whom we heard evidence suggested that it was not.
My problem, when we have considered the issue, has always been with the inclusion of fixed equipment, buildings and fences. I am not sure how one attributes damage to fences to game management. For example, if deer are crossing a boundary fence where there is a tenancy, it usually falls to the landlord to maintain it, so it is a responsibility of the landlord anyway. Under convention, there is a 50-50 split between the two landowners on either side of the fence. That is the way that things have always been done, to my knowledge.
Internal fences then become the issue. My struggle with the proposal is this: if deer are moving, for example, over a boundary fence from land owned by Forestry and Land Scotland and then trash an internal fence, I have a problem understanding why the landlord of the holding is responsible when there has clearly been a failure on the part of the neighbour to manage the deer within their holdings. I struggle with that.
I also struggle when it comes down to the definition of ditches. In my career I have seen very little damage to ditches due to game. I have seen more damage due to beavers, in the short time they have been moving all the way round Scotland, than due to pheasants or deer.
Turning to another issue, I am not sure that I fully understand the reasons for removing game management purely on the principle of it. Perhaps that proves that the committee does not necessarily divide along party lines, and that we are instead examining issues individually with regard to their importance, which I think that we have done throughout stage 2. I will leave that observation for those who have commented otherwise in the press.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 24 June 2025
Edward Mountain
There will be a division.
For
Doris, Bob (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (SNP)
Lennon, Monica (Central Scotland) (Lab)
Matheson, Michael (Falkirk West) (SNP)
Ruskell, Mark (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green)
Stewart, Kevin (Aberdeen Central) (SNP)
Against
Lumsden, Douglas (North East Scotland) (Con)
Mountain, Edward (Highlands and Islands) (Con)
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 24 June 2025
Edward Mountain
The result of the division is: For 5, Against 2, Abstentions 0.
Amendment 275 agreed to.
Amendment 276 moved—[Mairi Gougeon].
Amendment 276A moved—[Tim Eagle].
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 24 June 2025
Edward Mountain
The question is, that amendment 276A be agreed to. Are we agreed?
Members: No.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 24 June 2025
Edward Mountain
Sorry—I should say that we will come to you now, cabinet secretary. You are quick off the blocks.
10:15Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 24 June 2025
Edward Mountain
Yes. I was wondering if you were going to answer the question about compensation being sought from a landlord in relation to deer that are moving from somebody else’s holding in the middle of the night, say, and then moving back to that other person’s holding before daybreak. I do not understand how the landlord can be held responsible for that if they are not in a position to control the deer. I do not suppose that the cabinet secretary is expecting landlords to sit up all night waiting for deer to cross into their land and damage their crop, when it should be the person whose land the deer have come from who should be controlling them.