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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 19 July 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

Edward Mountain

Our second item of business is consideration of two Scottish statutory instruments. As both have been laid under the negative procedure, they will come into force unless the Parliament agrees to a motion to annul them, and no motions to annul have been lodged.

I will be seeking views on each instrument in turn. However, before I do so—and this was very rude of me—I should have acknowledged the fact that Monica Lennon has been unable to attend the meeting, and that Sarah Boyack is attending as her substitute.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

Edward Mountain

The first instrument—SSI 2025/78—revokes and replaces identical regulations that we considered on 11 March. The new instrument has been made because of what the Government considers was an error in its handling of the consultation responses, which it has sought to correct.

The Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee has drawn the instrument to the Parliament’s attention, because it did not meet the requirement to be laid 28 days before coming into force. In this case, the instrument was laid on 18 March but partly came into force on 30 March. When an instrument breaches the 28-day rule, the Scottish Government is required to provide an explanation, which is provided in annex B to the clerk’s note.

Does any member wish to make any comments on the instrument? I find it odd that there were only three responses to the consultation and that one of them was totally ignored. It also seems odd that we are having to come back and do this again, which is, I think, not something that I have ever come across before.

Sarah, did you want to comment?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Train and Bus Services

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

Edward Mountain

I think that most of us would join you in those thoughts.

Douglas, we have about eight minutes left for this session. Will you ask your two questions, so that I can bring in Sue Webber at the end if she wants to ask a question?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Train and Bus Services

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

Edward Mountain

Before I bring Mark Ruskell back in with some further questions, I would like to know how we make bus travel more attractive for people—I am thinking of, say, the long trip from Inverness down to Edinburgh. Do you have a view on that, Islay? Surely it is not just about making sure that there is wi-fi. Do there not need to be other facilities, too? What are your views?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Train and Bus Services

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

Edward Mountain

You get to put your question to Islay, who gets to give the final answer.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Train and Bus Services

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

Edward Mountain

You were getting only one question.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Train and Bus Services

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

Edward Mountain

I welcome our second panel of witnesses: Stephen Smellie, member of Unison’s national executive council and Scottish committee, Unison Scotland; Jackson Cullinane, head of Unite Scotland’s politics and campaigns unit, Unite the union; Gordon Martin, RMT Scotland organiser, National Union of Rail, Maritime and Transport Workers; and Kevin Lindsay, district organiser, Associated Society of Locomotive Engineers and Firemen.

We move straight to questions, the first of which comes from Sarah Boyack.

10:45  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Train and Bus Services

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

Edward Mountain

If somebody who gets concessionary travel misbehaves, do you think that their concession should be removed?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Train and Bus Services

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

Edward Mountain

Gordon Martin, do you want to add to that, or has he said it all?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Train and Bus Services

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

Edward Mountain

Good. We agree. Does anyone else want to come in on any of that?