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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 18 July 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Train and Bus Services

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

Edward Mountain

Thank you. That clears it up. I love figures, and Liam Sumpter has given me a whole lot of percentages that I will digest later.

The next question is from Kevin Stewart.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Train and Bus Services

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

Edward Mountain

Is that figure increasing or decreasing?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Train and Bus Services

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

Edward Mountain

That suggests that around 35 per cent of people buy their tickets on the train. Is that what you are suggesting? I am not sure how else they could get their tickets. Can you explain it to me?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Train and Bus Services

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

Edward Mountain

I have a quick question on integrated multimodal ticketing, which is an issue that I seem to remember looking at when we considered the Transport (Scotland) Bill. Was that in 2019? I cannot remember.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Train and Bus Services

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

Edward Mountain

The next questions come from Sarah Boyack.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Train and Bus Services

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

Edward Mountain

People might need to catch a bus, a train and a ferry.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Train and Bus Services

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

Edward Mountain

I am sure that you will twist CalMac’s arm following this meeting to make sure that that happens. Would you accept that integrated ticketing needs to go beyond just rail and sail tickets if we are to get people to use public transport?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Train and Bus Services

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

Edward Mountain

Our second item of business this morning is an evidence-taking session on the current state of Scotland’s rail and bus sectors. Today, we will hear from two panels, the first of which comprises representatives of bus operators, and the second, representatives of rail operators and owners and rail freight companies.

I am pleased to welcome Paul White, director, Confederation of Passenger Transport Scotland; David Frenz, operations director, Stagecoach; Duncan Cameron, managing director, First Bus Scotland; and Sarah Boyd, managing director, Lothian Buses.

We will move straight to questions, and I have—[Interruption.] I am sorry—I failed to do this last week, too, so at this point I should say that Monica Lennon has sent her apologies and Sarah Boyack is attending the meeting as her substitute. I am not going to welcome you to the meeting, Sarah, because this is your second week in a row here and you are becoming a bit of a fixture on the committee. You are always welcome, though.

The first question is an easy one to warm you up. The continuing reductions in bus services and passenger patronage over the past few years have been a problem. How can we reverse those declines and get more people on to buses as well as more bus routes?

Who would like to start off? Actually, I will give you all a chance to answer, just to make sure that you are all on point. Paul, do you want to start?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Train and Bus Services

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

Edward Mountain

Duncan, do you want to add anything? Last week, we heard people asking for green and pleasant buses to travel in.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Train and Bus Services

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

Edward Mountain

Okay, so you are refuting my comment, and Joanne is accepting it. Is that right?