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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 30 January 2026
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 6 January 2026

Edward Mountain

Those savings would have to be £6.9 billion.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 6 January 2026

Edward Mountain

I am not sure that you mean that.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 6 January 2026

Edward Mountain

It will be interesting to see where they spend it.

Dr Wishart, would you like to add anything on that question?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 6 January 2026

Edward Mountain

Bob Doris will ask the next questions.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 6 January 2026

Edward Mountain

I think that Douglas Lumsden has some questions.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 6 January 2026

Edward Mountain

We understand that, but you have a huge knowledge of the sector. We know that you have taken a step back, as it were, but we are very grateful that you are here, because you bring with you the knowledge gained from years of involvement in the sector. We understand that you are not speaking on behalf of Zero Waste Scotland.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 6 January 2026

Edward Mountain

No—you can take a brief answer from one of them.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 6 January 2026

Edward Mountain

You have 30 seconds.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 6 January 2026

Edward Mountain

I think that it makes things look even worse if you add Covid in.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 6 January 2026

Edward Mountain

Before I go to Mark Ruskell for a supplementary question, I want to put some figures to the witnesses. I am looking back at the information that we have. When I started in this Parliament, 10 years ago, the cost of concessionary travel was, I think, about £193 million a year. We have now heard that it has gone up to £414 million a year. In that time, the number of kilometres that cars travel has gone up considerably—it is very difficult to put an exact figure to it, but it is perhaps up to a billion kilometres, according to Transport Scotland. Meanwhile, trips by buses have dropped by 150 million kilometres. Concessionary travel is a very expensive way—the cost having risen by £200 million—to get more car kilometres travelled and fewer bus trips taken. Would you say, therefore, that it is a poorly targeted intervention?