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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 30 October 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Transport Policies and Performance

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Edward Mountain

I am not disputing that. What I am trying to work out is this. We were very much told that the heads of terms had been agreed. Having done purchases of land in my previous profession, I know that it can be done quite quickly. I am not asking what the price is, but if this were to be agreed today, would you have the money to buy it tomorrow? Could it be transferred that quickly? That is normally the way it works.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Transport Policies and Performance

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Edward Mountain

I would accept short, medium and long-term plans for capital investments, but you will still have a base price for each of those aspects at the time that you put forward the business case, and that will be based on today’s figure, with a potential inflationary rise over a few years. That is the way that it would be done commercially, so I would be very grateful if you could provide that information.

Douglas Lumsden has some questions, and then I will bring in the deputy convener.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 October 2025

Edward Mountain

I am delighted that these regulations are being brought forward. I remember that it was an issue that we wrestled with many years ago, when I was a member of this committee, and I think that this is the right move.

With regard to how you have sorted out the finance, why did you decide that the split would be that the council salary would still be paid by, presumably, the council and that only the adjusted MSP salary would be be paid by the Parliament? Surely the councils are the ones that are short of money and the one that could bear the cost is the Scottish Parliament.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 October 2025

Edward Mountain

My question is more on the mechanics of it, convener. I do not know the answer to this, but, if someone is an MP and then gets elected as an MSP, I presume that they will go straight on to being able to employ staff as an MSP, who might also be the staff they are employing as an MP. Have you considered that? Will guidance on that be issued between the two Parliaments? There could be a period in which the MSP and MP are employing the same staff. You are solving one issue, minister, but have you thought about solving the other? Or does it not happen? I do not know the answer to that, but I am sure that you will have looked at it.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 October 2025

Edward Mountain

IPSA is confident, and you are confident.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 October 2025

Edward Mountain

Okay. Thank you very much, convener.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 October 2025

Edward Mountain

Having raised that point, I think that it is important to pursue it. A bit of research that I have done suggests that sums of up to £20,000 in relation to admin appointments could be paid on top of a councillor’s salary. It is difficult, because there are exceptions, and I know that the minister has alluded to that. Additional pay and grading might be disallowed in some council areas but encouraged in other areas. I encourage monitoring of that to make sure, and I ask for a clear comment that it would not be expected that people who are getting that additional money would take it on top of their salary. I would be grateful if the minister could say that that is his understanding—unless perhaps it is not.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 October 2025

Edward Mountain

I believe that, in some councils, people in senior administration roles or roles with additional responsibilities receive allowances on top of their council salary. Therefore, why have you deducted only the basic rate, given that they could be getting the basic rate-plus?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 October 2025

Edward Mountain

From that point of view, it is the easier route. I can understand that, because it is easy to administer. However, minister, is it possible to put on the record the fact that, if somebody was getting additional pay on top of their councillor pay, you would not expect them to draw it, because it would make them better off than an MSP or just a normal councillor who had become a member of the Parliament?

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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 October 2025

Edward Mountain

I have probably explored that matter as far as I can. However, I would just comment that the way that the salaries have been dealt with—deducted at source—is a much more comfortable position than allowing people to choose charities. Sometimes, that can be difficult to administer, and the individual might have links with those charities, which could create problems. Therefore, deducting the salary at source is the right way to do it and a huge step in the right direction.