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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 7 November 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Edward Mountain

There will be a division.

For

Lumsden, Douglas (North East Scotland) (Con)
Mountain, Edward (Highlands and Islands) (Con)

Against

Doris, Bob (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (SNP)
Lennon, Monica (Central Scotland) (Lab)
Matheson, Michael (Falkirk West) (SNP)
Ruskell, Mark (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green)
Stewart, Kevin (Aberdeen Central) (SNP)

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Edward Mountain

No—you intervened on me. If you want to speak individually, I will bring you in afterwards. By all means, intervene on me.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Edward Mountain

I guess that that will be some consolation, but the fact is that the income for a relatively small landowner with 1,000 hectares, if we are talking about a hill farm, could be less than £20,000 a year. If you get hit by a £40,000 fine first off, because you have been struggling to do everything, you might be left with absolutely no income. Even with a £20,000 income, once tax and suchlike are taken into account, your disposable income will be relatively small. If the cabinet secretary is going to support the amendment, will she consider putting a bit more information on these fines into the bill at stage 3 to include, say, options to allow repayment over a period of time, as happens in court cases when fines are imposed, instead of requiring a one-off payment?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Edward Mountain

I ask Tim Eagle to wind up and to press or withdraw amendment 111.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Edward Mountain

The result of the division is: For 2, Against 5, Abstentions 0.

Amendment 111 disagreed to.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Edward Mountain

Committee time is always precious. I am conscious that there are never timings for discussion of amendments, but I gently urge Mr Eagle to bring his argument on part 1 to a conclusion. I cannot force you not to take the intervention—take it if you want to, but please bring your argument to a close.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Edward Mountain

Yes. Thank you for your compromise.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Edward Mountain

Okay, thank you.

Cabinet secretary, will you speak to amendment 115 and any other amendments in the group, please?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Edward Mountain

I ask the deputy convener, Michael Matheson, to speak to amendment 112 and any other amendments in the group.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Edward Mountain

In relation to areas that are considered to be de minimis as far as sales are concerned, have you considered the evidence that the committee heard that suggested that, if areas had been identified in the land management plan as being important to the community and if there was an undertaking that those would be excluded from the sale and sold to the community, the rest of the land would still be exempted from sale until ministers had ruled on the matter?