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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 17 July 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Grangemouth (Project Willow)

Meeting date: 13 May 2025

Edward Mountain

It kind of answers the question, but once the electricity is put into the national grid, there will be a national pricing structure for it, even if it goes to an electrolyser. There is something that I am trying to work out. If it will cost, say, £1 to achieve X with electricity, how much will it cost to achieve X with hydrogen? What is the difference? How much more will have to be paid for hydrogen? I am told that more will have to be paid for hydrogen than for electricity.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Grangemouth (Project Willow)

Meeting date: 13 May 2025

Edward Mountain

I understand that it will be the same amount of energy, but I am a simple soul and I am trying to understand. You said that hydrogen is more slippery. If it is more slippery, that suggests to me that it moves at a quicker pace.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Grangemouth (Project Willow)

Meeting date: 13 May 2025

Edward Mountain

I have a question on that specific point. It is my understanding that, compared with natural gas, it is possible to move a lot more hydrogen in a smaller pipe. Is that right?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Grangemouth (Project Willow)

Meeting date: 13 May 2025

Edward Mountain

Welcome back. We will now hear from our second panel of witnesses on the hydrogen aspects of the project willow study. Joining us in the room is Dr Simon Gill, independent energy consultant and author of “Green hydrogen in Scotland: A report for Scottish Futures Trust”. Appearing remotely are Dr Jan Rosenow, energy programme leader and Jackson senior research fellow at Oriel College, University of Oxford, and Professor Mark Symes, professor of electrochemistry and electrochemical technology at the school of chemistry, University of Glasgow. I welcome you all. Somewhat bizarrely, Simon, the fact that our online witness appear on a screen below you, which is facing me, makes it look as though you are flanked by them.

If you were listening to the first part of the meeting, you will have heard me say to the first panel of witnesses that my first question is the easy one. Project willow did not advocate for the use of either green or blue hydrogen but said only that a “reliable source” of low-carbon hydrogen will be required. Which source do you think is most likely to offer Scotland a reliable and affordable supply of hydrogen? I put that question to Mark first, before coming to Simon Gill and Jan Rosenow.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Grangemouth (Project Willow)

Meeting date: 13 May 2025

Edward Mountain

I am looking at those online now. Does anyone want to come back on that before I move to Kevin Stewart?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Grangemouth (Project Willow)

Meeting date: 13 May 2025

Edward Mountain

No—I am impressed. You were quicker to respond than our witnesses who are online.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Grangemouth (Project Willow)

Meeting date: 13 May 2025

Edward Mountain

Thanks, Kevin. The next questions come from Douglas.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

United Kingdom Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 May 2025

Edward Mountain

We will write to the Scottish Government on that basis. We will also ask the Government to tell us the timescale on which it proposes to ban the chemicals.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

United Kingdom Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 May 2025

Edward Mountain

Thank you. We will write to the Scottish Government to that effect.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Petition

Meeting date: 13 May 2025

Edward Mountain

The next item of business is consideration of petition PE2123. The petition, which has been lodged by Asthma and Lung UK Scotland, calls on the Scottish Parliament to urge the Scottish Government to amend the Air Quality Standards (Scotland) Regulations 2010 by setting new limit values for nitrogen dioxide and fine particulate matter in order to align with the World Health Organization’s 2021 air quality guidelines.

The committee first considered the petition in April, when it agreed to write to the Scottish Government to get an update on its review of its strategy, “Cleaner Air for Scotland 2: Towards a Better Place for Everyone”. The Scottish Government responded on 22 April, and its letter is provided in annex B of the relevant paper, which also sets out some options for going further.

Do members have any views?