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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 3 November 2025
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Right to Addiction Recovery (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Douglas Ross

The medical professional will know what work has to be done by the patient, the third sector and others to get somebody ready. However, if, having gone through the process of meeting with the individual, remotely or in person, the medical professional is saying that the individual is ready for residential rehab, that person should get that treatment within three weeks. That is why it is part of the medical assessment.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Right to Addiction Recovery (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Douglas Ross

Yes. The course of treatment should start within three weeks. Currently, if the course of treatment is X, there will be other work that needs to be done in advance of that. However, once the determination is made that the right approach is a particular treatment option listed in section 1(5) of the bill, that treatment will have to start within three weeks.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Right to Addiction Recovery (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Douglas Ross

I believe that it is, because we have included in the bill the ability for ministers to increase some of its provisions. Section 9(1) says that a “drug”

“includes any intoxicant other than alcohol”.

What is meant by “alcohol” is clear, but, because “drug” means “any intoxicant”, if a new drug comes on the market that is deemed to be an intoxicant, it will be covered by section 9(1).

You also mention the MAT standards, which are important. Last week, we heard a lot from the cabinet secretary and witnesses about the standards. Again, the bill seeks in no way to replace the MAT standards but to work alongside them. The committee will be aware of this, but it is important that others understand that the MAT standards have no statutory underpinning. The bill would make statutory provision. That is the difference; the bill provides a legal framework. People have an ambition to deliver the MAT standards, but the standards have no statutory underpinning.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Right to Addiction Recovery (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Douglas Ross

I gave that quite a lot of thought. I am trying not to be overly prescriptive and I do not want to say too much in the bill. There are elements of that that could be included in the code of practice. It is important that people who are entitled to residential rehab, in the view of the medical professional, get it in some form.

Drafting the bill is difficult, because we have not achieved even the Scottish Government’s target for additional beds—it is due by March 2026. We do not know where all the beds will be. Some will be with independent providers and some will be available through the health service. It was a decision not to include any specific choice. It is not like people will get their top three options, but I absolutely agree that services are very varied in what they offer and how they offer it.

That would go back into the discussion that the individual would have with the medical professional. The medical professional would determine a course of treatment that people could follow to hopefully overcome their drug and alcohol addiction issues, not a specific destination that that person should go to. I would be happy to look at that, but I worry that it would add complexities that would make it more difficult to deliver the bill. We could certainly tease that out during future stages, because it deserves wider consideration.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Right to Addiction Recovery (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Douglas Ross

I mentioned nicotine because it came up in earlier evidence sessions. Mr Whittle discussed the idea that some people could be addicted to nicotine and some people could be addicted to chocolate. The definition in the bill relates to substances that intoxicate people and to which they become addicted. Someone can become addicted to prescribed drugs, so that would be covered under the bill.

Ms Fraser, do you want to add anything?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

Douglas Ross

So, you were aware at those meetings that they were about the legislation that we are scrutinising, and, despite that, you have had no engagement with the Government on the bill since 9 December.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

Douglas Ross

Were the meetings up to and including 9 December solely about the bill or were they general update meetings with the Scottish Government?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

Douglas Ross

Thank you. You have put that on the record.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

Douglas Ross

Yes.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

Douglas Ross

Good morning, and welcome to the 17th meeting of the Education, Children and Young People Committee in 2025. This morning, we will continue to take evidence on the Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill at Stage 1, with two panels of witnesses joining us.

I welcome the witnesses on the first panel: Sarah Collins, national officer for further education, Educational Institute of Scotland; Liam Davenport, industrial officer, Public and Commercial Services Union; Nicola Jackson, Unison steward, Skills Development Scotland; Mary Senior, Scotland official, University and College Union, Scotland; and John Lewis, Scottish Funding Council workplace representative at Unite the Union.

We have a lot to get through, but we are keen to hear your views and opinions. I will first ask the question that I have asked every panel so far during the scrutiny of the bill. What is the problem that the bill seeks to address and hopefully resolve, and does it do that, in your view and that of your organisation? Mr Lewis, because you are in my line of sight, I will start with you.