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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 5 November 2025
Douglas Ross
This problem is not an issue of conflict with the UK Government; it is because part of the bill—sections 1 and 2, and section 10—amend the Children (Scotland) Act 1995. You are saying that the UK Government could maybe write off some of the legislation—
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 5 November 2025
Douglas Ross
That is what I am saying. Your answer seemed to be about the UNCRC in general rather than about this bill, which could be sorted with amendments at stage 2 without any further involvement from the UK Government.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 5 November 2025
Douglas Ross
No. I am sorry, minister, but the committee has received that evidence, and you said that you have followed our evidence. If I was in your shoes, I would have thought that this was clearly an area that I was going to be challenged on. You cannot come here and say that you will now look into it. I would really like to know now why your engagement, in COSLA’s eyes, has been so poor with regard to a bill on which I would have expected it to be working hand in glove with you.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 5 November 2025
Douglas Ross
Sorry—I am lost now. How can you say that the ministerial code prevents you from doing something before the bill is presented to Parliament but, in the same answer, also say that you engaged widely before it was introduced to Parliament?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 5 November 2025
Douglas Ross
Okay.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 5 November 2025
Douglas Ross
So, minister, you have seen it, but your official has not.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 5 November 2025
Douglas Ross
I will bring in Pam Duncan-Glancy.
10:15Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 5 November 2025
Douglas Ross
But do you accept that you are not answering those challenges? You have told the committee that the consultation closed less than a month ago, so you do not have that information for us. I accept that, but you could have had that information. Was there a blockage? Was there something that meant that you, as the minister, knowing what you were putting in the bill before it was introduced to Parliament, could not have consulted? Was there a legal problem? Was there a problem with officials?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 5 November 2025
Douglas Ross
But that explanation was, “We’re not going to change it”.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 5 November 2025
Douglas Ross
You are at the committee today saying that you are not sure where COSLA’s concerns stem from, but those concerns have been in black and white, in writing, for months. Why are you now saying that you will go away and speak to COSLA, given that you and your officials saw what it had said in its written submission on the bill?