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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 31 October 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Douglas Ross

Have you asked?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Douglas Ross

To be clear, what can you not access? You have known for some time that the committee would scrutinise the bill, and you have mentioned a consultation from a couple of years ago. If we were to recommend approval of the bill at stage 1, what detail that would allow us to properly consider the costs would you get in the next few months, between now and September, that you could not have got in the past few months?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Douglas Ross

I am sorry, but I will press you. What has been withheld from you? Why could you not get the figure for us for our stage 1 deliberation? You know that the cost has come up in evidence.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Douglas Ross

You will not know the exact staff numbers at the end of stage 1, but the minister has just committed to bringing the cost details back before stage 2.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Douglas Ross

If the process works as you envisage, when would we get that information?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Douglas Ross

Why not?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Douglas Ross

Separately, what do you think that the proposal means for the future of the University of the Highlands and Islands, as it is now the only remaining body with such a structure? Are you satisfied that nothing should change and that UHI is operating well, or do you have concerns that, as it is the last remaining institution with that structure, it should perhaps change as well?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Douglas Ross

You have said “as soon as possible” a couple of times. Do you have a timescale? Will that work be completed in this parliamentary session or the next?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Douglas Ross

The committee must now produce its report on the draft order. Is the committee content to delegate responsibility to me, as convener, to agree that report on behalf of the committee?

Members indicated agreement.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Douglas Ross

That is encouraging because, across the committee, we had been quite concerned about that.

There was indication that a commitment had been made by your officials on 9 December 2024 to keep up the engagement with unions. I understand that there were staff absences, but the Government is a large organisation and people would normally pick up the slack. Given that, as Mr FitzPatrick said, it got to the extent that five unions were coming to us, speaking with one voice about their concerns about the lack of engagement with you and your officials, why was the engagement not maintained by other members of your team?