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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 31 October 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Douglas Ross

Okay. Thank you.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Douglas Ross

You cannot tell us, as the minister in charge of this, what should be done better and what should change to deliver that.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Douglas Ross

Why not?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Douglas Ross

Thank you.

Finally, are current SDS staff fully involved and engaged with everything that the Government is doing in the apprenticeship sphere at the moment?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Douglas Ross

Are SDS staff part of that?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Douglas Ross

We have all accepted that there is significant expertise and institutional memory within the staff of SDS, and that they do good work—that is why they would move across to the SFC—can you give a commitment that, should SDS staff or the board think that SDS staff should be involved in any of those working groups, they would be guaranteed to be part of that, so that they do not feel excluded?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Douglas Ross

That is a welcome reassurance.

Minister, I thank you and your officials for your time today. We welcome your commitment to send us follow-up information, some of definitely ahead of our stage 1 debate.

I will now suspend the meeting for about 10 minutes.

11:49 Meeting suspended.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

11:59 On resuming—  

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Douglas Ross

Our next agenda item is consideration of an item of subordinate legislation that is subject to the affirmative procedure. The committee will take evidence on the draft Regional Strategic Bodies and Regional Colleges (Glasgow and Lanarkshire) Order 2025 from the Minister for Higher and Further Education; and Minister for Veterans, and his officials. The minister will also move the motion that the order be approved. I welcome Graeme Dey, who is accompanied by Jess Dolan, head of institutional governance and reform; and Alison Martin, solicitor.

I invite the minister to speak to the draft order.

12:00  

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Douglas Ross

I am still unsure, though. The committee has to produce a report, which will be scrutinised by the Government and voted on by the Parliament. At what stage will parliamentarians who will vote on the general principles, potential amendments and the final bill know the cost?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Douglas Ross

From whom? In the evidence that we have heard, there has been a lack of enthusiasm. There are a lot of challenges in the sector, but people are not banging on our door to say that they would like this bill to be taken through in the final year of the parliamentary session. I have a letter in front of me from the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities that shows it is not in favour, and we got a letter yesterday from Western Isles Council, a COSLA member, which is not in favour of the change. SDS clearly has concerns. The most support comes from the Funding Council, which will gain a lot of functions and extra funding from you under this bill.