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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 23 June 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Douglas Ross

Amendment 297, which is in my name, is grouped with amendments 298 to 301. I thank the cabinet secretary and her officials for their time on Monday to discuss the amendments in this group. There have been a number of references to them, and they have so far been positive, which has encouraged me throughout the proceedings so far.

There is no doubt that my motivation behind the amendments was the situation around last year’s higher history exam. We will come on to that in a moment. In preparation for a number of our evidence sessions on last year’s higher history exam, I was alerted to a petition to the Parliament back in 2013. Petition PE1484, by Ian Thow, called for a number of things, including the setting up of an independent regulator to consider examinations in Scotland. When I was considering my amendments, I contacted the petitioner, and he was extremely encouraged that, despite his disappointment some 12 years ago, the idea was still on the Parliament’s radar and was going to be discussed and considered by the committee.

Not everything in the petition forms part of my amendments but, at its heart, my amendment 297 seeks to put in place an independent individual as a regulator to consider complaints about the exam process. I make the point about the petition back in 2013 because last year’s higher history was not a one-off event; there have been other events where parents, pupils and staff have raised concerns about SQA examinations and the SQA has looked into those itself. Indeed, when the petition was dismissed in November 2013, it was because the Scottish Government said that it was a matter for the SQA—which I agree with—but the SQA said that things were working “effectively and efficiently”.

Anyone who has looked at last year’s higher history exam results and the debate around them—whether they think that the outcome of the review is correct or still have questions—will notice, first, that that review was refused for some time. It took the former chief executive until September even to have a review. Then, the findings of that review were hotly disputed.

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The Scottish Association of Teachers of History survey quotes teachers of history in Scotland who said that the review of the SQA into its own examination was a “whitewash” and

“the most biased and useless investigation I have ever seen a public body attempt to pass off as legitimate”.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Douglas Ross

I ask Miles Briggs to wind up and say whether he wishes to press or withdraw amendment 302.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Douglas Ross

Amendment 74, in the name of Ross Greer, is grouped with amendments 75, 76, 79 to 83, 96 to 107, 109, 110 and 114.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Douglas Ross

The result of the division is: For 5, Against 5, Abstentions 0.

As the outcome of the division on amendment 278 is tied, I will use my casting vote as convener in order for the committee to reach a decision. I vote in favour of amendment 278.

Amendment 278 agreed to.

Amendment 279 not moved.

Section 12, as amended, agreed to.

Section 13 agreed to.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Douglas Ross

The result of the division is: For 4, Against 5, Abstentions 0.

Amendment 261 disagreed to.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Douglas Ross

Okay. Now that we have got you connected, and given that we have started this process, I will take you at the end.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Douglas Ross

There are two solutions. First, your points are now noted. The ultimate solution is for you to have your camera on throughout our proceedings, as you do during divisions. If you are happy to be viewed throughout the entire time, that is certainly what we will do in the evening session.

However, we cannot go back. It might be no comfort, because your vote was not recorded, but your vote would not have made a difference to the result of that division if you were voting in the same way as your SNP colleagues. It would not have changed the outcome of the division on the amendment. As soon as it was brought to my attention by one of your colleagues, we were able to get you up on the screen to take part in the subsequent votes.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Douglas Ross

The solution is that, for the evening session, if you are happy, your camera will be on for the entire time, because you are seeing us, so we should be able to see you. If you are comfortable with that, that will ensure that we always see you.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Douglas Ross

Welcome back. We continue our consideration of the Education (Scotland) Bill at the second day of stage 2. We will move straight to proceedings.

After section 13

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Douglas Ross

I am happy with that. Ms Haughey, are you also happy for your camera to be on for the session? Since you are sat there anyway, we might as well be able to see you. As I said, we have recorded all your votes subsequent to amendment 261, but it would not have changed the outcome for that amendment. Your points are also noted.