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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 22 June 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Douglas Ross

Thank you all very much for your evidence today. I will briefly suspend the meeting to allow our witnesses to leave. The committee will then move into private session to consider its second agenda item, after which I will suspend the meeting until 5.45, at which point the committee will again sit in public to continue its consideration of the Education (Scotland) Bill at stage 2.

12:29 Meeting continued in private.  

12:58 Meeting suspended.  

17:45 On resuming—  

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Douglas Ross

Good evening, and welcome back. Agenda item 3 is the continuation of our stage 2 consideration of the Education (Scotland) Bill. I welcome back the cabinet secretary, her supporting officials and members.

Section 27—Deputy Chief Inspector of Education in Scotland

Amendments 145 and 146 not moved.

Section 27 agreed to.

Section 28—His Majesty’s Inspectors of Education in Scotland

Amendments 79, 80, 147, 148, 81, 149, 150, 82, 151, 152 and 83 not moved.

Section 28 agreed to.

Section 29—Assistance with inspections

Amendments 153 and 154 not moved.

Section 29 agreed to.

Before section 30

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Douglas Ross

I should confirm that the cabinet secretary will not be closing on this group; she has spoken. Ms Duncan-Glancy is winding up the debate.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Douglas Ross

I am sorry, cabinet secretary—do you have a point of order, or are you intervening on Ms Duncan-Glancy?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Douglas Ross

The question is, that amendment 351 be agreed to. Are we agreed?

Members: No.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Douglas Ross

I am grateful to Ross Greer for making those points and for his support of the points that I have made. That crystallises my view that something is required in the bill. I am interested to hear the cabinet secretary’s response and the further discussions that we will have.

A point that I put to the former chief executive of the SQA is that, if the body was so sure of its internal investigation, it would have had no fear or concern about having an independent review. If the SQA is happy with its procedures and with everything that it is doing and believes that it is effective and functioning properly, it should not be concerned about an independent regulator being put in place, because such a regulator would have nothing to investigate if everything is fine. I hope that that is a helpful discussion for us to have.

There is a deficiency in this area in the current set-up, which I would not like to see being replicated in the new body. With the bill, we have a unique and fairly rare—I realise that something cannot be both unique and fairly rare—opportunity to change the education structures in Scotland. In considering the creation of the new qualifications Scotland body, we have an ideal opportunity to debate the issue, which is what I am seeking to do with the amendments in my name.

I move amendment 297.

19:30  

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Douglas Ross

The result of the division is: For 9, Against 0, Abstentions 1.

Amendment 17 agreed to

Section 25, as amended, agreed to.

After section 25

Amendment 73 moved—[Jenny Gilruth]—and agreed to.

Amendments 287 to 289 not moved.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Douglas Ross

The result of the division is: For 3, Against 7, Abstentions 0.

Amendment 253 disagreed to.

Section 9, as amended, agreed to.

After section 9

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Douglas Ross

The result of the division on amendment 58 is: For 4, Against 6, Abstentions 0.

Amendment 58 disagreed to.

Amendment 242 not moved.

Amendment 59 moved—[Jenny Gilruth]—and agreed to.

Amendment 60 not moved.

Section 8, as amended, agreed to.

After section 8

Amendment 243 not moved.

Section 9—Strategic Advisory Council

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Douglas Ross

I call amendment 69, in the name of the cabinet secretary, already debated with amendment 255. I remind members that, if amendment 69 is agreed to, I cannot call amendments 262 and 263, due to pre-emptions.

Amendment 69 not moved.

Amendments 262 and 263 not moved.

Amendment 264 moved—[Pam Duncan-Glancy].