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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 10 December 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 October 2025

Douglas Ross

Why is that still work in progress when we are midway through the 10-year period? Did no one think, in 2020, that they should set up a system to track progress and ensure that they would meet the 2030 target, instead of still trying to come up with a system at this mid-point?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 October 2025

Douglas Ross

On that final point, the committee met a number of people last night. It was an enlightening session. I certainly picked up on a frustration that things have dragged on for too long, although I do not want to go as far as to say that there is frustration here this morning.

You have all said that you welcome the report, but I am not sure that we should be welcoming it, because it is quite a damning report and it follows hot on the heels of the Promise oversight board’s report in February. These reports regularly say that we are not doing enough, we are not moving fast enough and there is no clear direction. Should we really be welcoming the report, or should we be worried about it? Mr Savege, I see that you want to come back in.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 October 2025

Douglas Ross

I call Willie Rennie.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 October 2025

Douglas Ross

That concludes our deliberations on the bill for today. I thank the witnesses for their time, their answers to our questions and their evidence. It is very much appreciated.

That concludes the public part of our proceedings, and we will now move into private to consider our final agenda item.

12:19 Meeting continued in private until 12:35.  

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 October 2025

Douglas Ross

Has Aberdeenshire Council had experience of wanting some of that money but being unable to get it because of the complexities and the bureaucracy surrounding the fund?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 October 2025

Douglas Ross

That would be for the Government to look at, react to and hopefully come back to local authorities on.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 October 2025

Douglas Ross

You did not hear her?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 October 2025

Douglas Ross

One final area that we have not touched on so far is children’s hearings. A lot of people who responded to our call for views were positive and welcomed the enhanced role of the reporter, but COSLA was quite critical, noting that the reporter can already have informal meetings and that professionals should already be working with the child and family to support their understanding of the process. You believe that the introduction of a meeting with the principal reporter raises questions about roles in the process.

Could you explain the background to your concerns? The bill addresses the issue, but are there non-legislative ways in which it could be addressed?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 October 2025

Douglas Ross

Thank you for that.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 October 2025

Douglas Ross

Thank you very much. I thank you all for your time and for the evidence that you have provided on the bill. It is much appreciated.

I suspend the meeting for about 15 minutes to allow for a change of witnesses.

10:37 Meeting suspended.  

10:49 On resuming—