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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 8 December 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Douglas Ross

Good morning, and welcome to the 30th meeting in 2025 of the Education, Children and Young People Committee.

The first item of business is evidence on the Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill at stage 1. The Cabinet Secretary for Education and Skills, Jenny Gilruth is supported by Scottish Government officials Alison Taylor, interim director for learning; Stella Smith, head of supporting learners policy unit; Robert Eckhart, supporting learners policy team leader; and Nico McKenzie-Juetten, head of school education branch, legal directorate. Welcome to you all.

I understand that the cabinet secretary would like to make an opening statement. Over to you, cabinet secretary.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Douglas Ross

Sorry—are you saying that it was not discussed by the Funding Council?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Douglas Ross

To go back to my earlier point about whether you are on schedule or not, if you submitted a plan in August and it has not been allowed to go forward because, by your own admission, it has been rejected by the Funding Council, surely you cannot possibly be on schedule. You have had to come up with another plan and we are not there yet—we do not have that.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Douglas Ross

Why, then, do we have a finance committee of an institution that is in financial distress that is not meeting because it does not have a chair?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Douglas Ross

I did not expect him to say that he did not want to go; I was just wondering whether he said that he wanted to go. It is good to get that clarification.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Douglas Ross

What are you basing that on? What if we go out of today’s meeting and ask a question in the chamber, or journalists ask the Scottish Government whether it agrees with Professor Seaton and accepts that the number of job losses will have to be higher? Have you had that from Government ministers or civil servants?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Douglas Ross

The cabinet secretary sat in that seat a little over an hour ago and said that she was personally heavily involved with this. She has a local connection, because she is a Fife MSP. Have you had direct discussions with the cabinet secretary or the former or new Minister for Higher and Further Education and their officials about there being more than 300 job losses at Dundee university?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Douglas Ross

What were the issues with the court?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Douglas Ross

Okay—thank you. I bring in Miles Briggs, to be followed by Ross Greer.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Douglas Ross

If I may interject here, I had not thought of this earlier but, on Mr Rennie’s line of questioning, I know from having done a member’s bill myself that there is a period when the Government, if it is supportive, can take on the bill itself. Given everything that you have said about being supportive, what was your consideration about taking on the bill as a Government bill? I think that the Government gets to consider that during a six-week period.