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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 20 June 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Douglas Ross

There will be a division.

For

Adam, George (Paisley) (SNP)
Briggs, Miles (Lothian) (Con)
Dunbar, Jackie (Aberdeen Donside) (SNP)
FitzPatrick, Joe (Dundee City West) (SNP)
Greer, Ross (West Scotland) (Green)
Kidd, Bill (Glasgow Anniesland) (SNP)
Mason, John (Glasgow Shettleston) (Ind)
Rennie, Willie (North East Fife) (LD)
Ross, Douglas (Highlands and Islands) (Con)

Against

Duncan-Glancy, Pam (Glasgow) (Lab)

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Douglas Ross

In your submission, you say:

“Many employers do not believe that the Scottish labour market will be able to support the delivery of their future business plans and are facing immediate impacts with potential delays on their critical projects.”

Do you think that that issue will be resolved through the bill and, more widely, through what you heard in the programme for government yesterday?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Douglas Ross

You will have seen some of the criticism of the bill from others, including those whom we will hear from today, but do you think that it is a good and adequate bill?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Douglas Ross

I thought that you might have had a wider discussion about that when you were discussing the bill. Did you look at examples elsewhere in the UK or wider international examples?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Douglas Ross

I understand your answer, but we are scrutinising a bill, and you, as our first panel of witnesses, are saying that funding and resourcing are concerns. You are saying, from your vast experience, that there is a legitimate concern that the bill, if it is passed, will not be resourced properly and that we will meet the same pitfalls as we have in the past. What can the Government or these bodies do to reassure you that this time it will be different, or is it impossible to get that reassurance?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Douglas Ross

Before I go to Jackie Dunbar, I want to know whether you have had any explanation from ministers or officials as to the reason for not supporting the recommendations in the OECD report. Is there anything that prevents them from taking on those recommendations? Has that topic been raised with the other panel members?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Douglas Ross

Damien Yeates, you led SDS during the merger in 2007 and 2008. Do you want to give us some examples of what you experienced during that merger and some of your concerns that history may repeat itself?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Douglas Ross

The question is, that amendment 172 be agreed to. Are we agreed?

Members: No.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Douglas Ross

The question is, that amendment 328 be agreed to. Are we agreed?

Members: No.

20:30  

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Douglas Ross

There will be a division. Before we get to it, however, I understand if members want me to slow down a wee bit. I am rattling through the procedure and I do not want people to miss their notes. We are going through a lot of amendments, so please feel free to tell me to slow down slightly.

We come to the division on amendment 328.

For

Duncan-Glancy, Pam (Glasgow) (Lab)
Greer, Ross (West Scotland) (Green)

Against

Adam, George (Paisley) (SNP)
Briggs, Miles (Lothian) (Con)
Dunbar, Jackie (Aberdeen Donside) (SNP)
FitzPatrick, Joe (Dundee City West) (SNP)
Kidd, Bill (Glasgow Anniesland) (SNP)
Mason, John (Glasgow Shettleston) (Ind)
Rennie, Willie (North East Fife) (LD)
Ross, Douglas (Highlands and Islands) (Con)