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Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 19 February 2025
Douglas Ross
But you do not say that. At no point in the email that you sent at 9:57 am on 20 December do you ever mention the unions.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 19 February 2025
Douglas Ross
Let us look at some of the things that you emailed Kirsty MacDonald about and asked her to redact. This comes from pages 60 and 61 of the SATH survey:
“They need to open up questioning and criticism instead of gaslighting and removing contracts from anyone who challenges them. If you speak out you are not getting invited to return, regardless of how good you are as a marker, because the SQA does not like being questioned. Ask teachers. Ask the markers. Stop listening to the echo chamber that the organisation operates in.”
That seems to be more critical of the SQA than of an individual staff member who is not mentioned there at all and it does not seem to be something that any union representing an individual staff member would be worried about.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 19 February 2025
Douglas Ross
But we are not hearing it. We are being told that it has to be redacted.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 19 February 2025
Douglas Ross
I am sorry, Ms Stewart, but those quotes do not mention an individual member of staff. They are critical of your organisation, but they are not critical of an individual member of staff.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 19 February 2025
Douglas Ross
It is in the plural.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 19 February 2025
Douglas Ross
I am sorry, but I am just asking whether it is a team of one.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 19 February 2025
Douglas Ross
Well, I would like an answer.
Ms Rogers—
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 19 February 2025
Douglas Ross
Ms Rogers, are you able to enlighten us?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 19 February 2025
Douglas Ross
As I understand it from SATH, it has had no correspondence on its multiple drafts of an apology and the further redactions that have been requested since it appeared before the committee.
What is your view, Ms Stewart, as the interlocutor between the union, an individual member of staff and the survey? SATH has made clear its view; it held its hands up, and Kirsty MacDonald was very honest with us and said that it was wrong that the name was included, but it is not willing to redact those comments that I read out, because it does not believe that they identify an individual member of staff. Given that there has been no communication—as I understand it; please tell me if I am wrong—since SATH appeared before the committee, what can be done with the survey now?
I think that you, Ms Rogers—correct me if I am wrong; it might have been Ms Stewart—said that you wanted to get that out into the public domain and that it should be shared. What can SATH do now, if it is not hearing anything further from you, and given the concerns that you previously highlighted that the apology was not accepted by the member of staff and they wanted changes, and that redactions are still required? Where are we with that?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 19 February 2025
Douglas Ross
That is still quite a lot of people who spent time attending the event and were unhappy. A total of 40 per cent were not happy. There were criticisms that one of the events was “chaotic” and there were different answers given at different times. Is that what you witnessed when you sat through it?
Another point was that a lot of questions were put in the chat that people felt would be answered at some point, but when the SATH witnesses appeared before us in January, those had still not been answered. Has that been resolved?