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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 23 October 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Douglas Ross

Do you know what day 26 September is?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Douglas Ross

That is okay. It is a Friday, which is a non-sitting day. Will you at least give us a commitment that the response from the Government will be made on a sitting day—at the very latest, the response would be made on 26 September—and that you would make a statement to Parliament on the outcome of your decision?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Douglas Ross

Thank you very much.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Douglas Ross

I think that we would be in a very strange situation if a minister had given a commitment to a committee of this Parliament that she is happy to give a statement for that not to be accepted. That commitment is very welcome.

We have gone over time. I appreciate your time, minister, and that of your officials. I will briefly suspend to allow for a changeover of witnesses.

09:36 Meeting suspended.  

09:38 On resuming—  

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Douglas Ross

Could that have been resolved if there had been better discussion and deliberation beforehand? You suggest that there was insufficient consultation prior the bill’s introduction.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Douglas Ross

Thank you very much—that is extremely helpful.

Ms Duncan and Mr McKinlay, I understand that there are positives, and please feel free to speak about those if you want to. However, I want to pick up on some of the points that you made in your submission. You said that

“this Bill as currently drafted does not fulfil the vision of the Independent Care Review when it concluded in 2020”.

You also spoke about a lack of engagement. I have particular concern about the part of your submission that said

“Concerns have been raised about the process to develop this Bill”,

and that there was an

“absence of engagement before it was laid in June.”

That is quite damning of a Government that has known that the bill was coming.

I would have expected and assumed that there would be pretty good engagement prior to the bill’s introduction. However, you suggested that that was not the case, Ms Duncan.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Interests

Meeting date: 3 September 2025

Douglas Ross

Good morning and welcome to the 24th meeting in 2025 of the Education, Children and Young People Committee.

Our first agenda item is a declaration of interests. I welcome Paul McLennan, who is replacing our colleague Joe FitzPatrick.?On behalf of the committee, I thank Mr FitzPatrick for his contribution to our work.

Because this is Mr McLennan’s first meeting as a committee member, I invite him to declare any relevant interests.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Interests

Meeting date: 3 September 2025

Douglas Ross

Excellent. Thank you very much. That concludes the short public part of our proceedings, and the committee will now move into private session to consider its other agenda items.

09:25 Meeting continued in private until 11:53.  

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Douglas Ross

So, you travelled business class to all those destinations.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Douglas Ross

Why were those papers produced in draft but not provided to the membership of that group?