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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 19 June 2025
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Right to Addiction Recovery (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Douglas Ross

That is hugely important. As I said in my opening statement, drug and alcohol deaths are, sadly, far more prevalent in our most-deprived communities than in our least-deprived communities. There is particular mention in the financial memorandum of a process that we would go through and funding that would be allocated to make people aware of their rights, should the bill be passed by the Parliament. That would be important.

The bill has been drafted by front-line experts. I am the person who will take the bill through the Parliament, because that has to be done by an MSP, but I have to pay special credit to Annemarie Ward from Faces & Voices of Recovery UK and Steven Wishart, who drafted the bill and have been the driving force behind the change that they hope it will elicit.

From discussions with front-line experts, I know that they are aware of what is happening in the Parliament, and they are aware of the possibilities should the bill progress and become law. Therefore, there is already awareness out there in communities and among front-line experts who deal with people with drug and alcohol addiction issues.

Beyond that, there is a financial element in the financial memorandum that would allow us to make it clear to people, particularly those in the most-deprived communities, that the new law would help and support them.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Right to Addiction Recovery (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Douglas Ross

It absolutely seeks to level the playing field, because, as the committee heard in evidence, too many people who are being recommended for a number of the treatment options that are set out in the bill are not receiving that treatment. We have introduced the bill to enshrine that right in law because, at the moment, people who are seeking that help are not receiving it.

With regard to the concern that that might move resources away from other areas in the health budget, as I said, there is a range of funding projections for the bill, from £28.5 million to £38 million, and I have been very clear that the uplift in funding for drug and alcohol treatment should come from the Scottish Government central fund. In my note to the Finance and Public Administration Committee, I suggested where I believe that that money can come from—by reducing the civil service head count in Scotland. I know that the Scottish Government is looking at that.

In my view, the bill would not take money away from other drug and alcohol services or from other health services. I have found the funds in other areas of Scottish Government funding so as to address the concern that Ms Whitham expresses about the need to not take the focus or funding away from other areas of healthcare in Scotland.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Right to Addiction Recovery (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Douglas Ross

I really believe that it does, because it would give people an opportunity to have their voice heard. First of all, a person’s voice is heard in the deliberation on the best treatment option for them. I welcome the fact that, last week, the cabinet secretary said to Ms Mochan that we need to

“go further ... in a co-ordinated way that works for individuals and how they wish to access services”—[Official Report, Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, 20 May 2025; c 31.]

and that we need to do that in a way that works for them.

There is a gap in the individual element of care that Ms Mochan was getting to and the cabinet secretary was agreeing with. Empowering people to be involved in their own treatment options helps. We have also heard from others that they hope that the bill will support compliance with individuals’ human rights. It would allow them to feel that they have a voice in their own decision making and treatment options, and, crucially, if they disagree with those, they would have the right to a second opinion.

They might still disagree with the second opinion if it says that no treatment is right for them or if the treatment that they have asked for is not appropriate for them, but that is left to medical professionals. I am sure that we will get into that later on. I hope that that will further destigmatise those who are struggling with drug and alcohol abuse, because they will be empowered to get the treatment and support that they believe is right to get them on the road to recovery.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Right to Addiction Recovery (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Douglas Ross

I do not think so, and I can point to a number of ideas to support that view.

First, the budget required for the bill would represent a significant uplift. There would be an increase from £28.5 million to £38 million, which again shows that the bill would be adding something, not taking from other areas.

The bill would also be important in helping those in third sector organisations who work with people with addictions, because they would be able to see that an individual with whom they were working, and who needed one of the treatments listed in section 1(5), would get it. If the treatment was agreed by the medical professional, workers would know that the support would go to that individual and that they would not have to worry about someone such as Liam being put on a waiting list for four months and then taking an overdose and dying while on it. I think that the bill would help with the work that they are doing, and they would know that those individuals would be guaranteed the care that was deemed appropriate for them.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Right to Addiction Recovery (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Douglas Ross

The patient comes in and can discuss the options that they believe are right for them. The clinician—the medical professional—can say, “I agree with you and I recommend you for it,” “I disagree, and maybe another option is the correct one,” or, “No treatment is the correct option for you.”

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Right to Addiction Recovery (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Douglas Ross

Of course, a second opinion is your right at the moment. One of the biggest differences would be the timeline. This should happen as soon as is practically possible and with a three-week ceiling.

To go back to Ms Harper’s point about the clock starting and stopping, I would say that this is about trying to get the process to happen as quickly as possible. It is also about enshrining that right in law, which brings me back to my points about holding the Government accountable for this. When the Government has to meet those standards and has to be accountable for doing so, there is more of a drive to get the investment into the various different options that we have discussed this morning.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Right to Addiction Recovery (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Douglas Ross

The legal right to addiction recovery enshrines in law that it should happen as soon as is practically possible and within a maximum of three weeks.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Right to Addiction Recovery (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Douglas Ross

That is not my understanding, because that would be a consequence of drug—particularly alcohol—addiction, whereas the bill is looking at dealing with the addiction elements. I know that there were questions in some of the committee’s previous sessions about addiction to things like nicotine—Mr Whittle even jokingly referred to chocolate and such like—but the bill is very specific about drug and alcohol addiction, and about dealing with the addiction part. In my view, liver failure is a consequence of addiction and would be dealt with in the normal way, through a transplant request.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Right to Addiction Recovery (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Douglas Ross

There is a huge lack of data, which has hampered some of the deliberations that I have had on the bill. It certainly caused challenges when I went to the Finance and Public Administration Committee, because the members on that committee understandably want precise examples of and costs for everything. In his letter to this committee and the finance committee—it was a joint letter to both committees that are considering the bill—the Cabinet Secretary for Health and Social Care was open about how difficult it is to gather data on this issue and to assess the effectiveness or otherwise of some of the options that are currently available.

The reporting element of the bill would therefore provide much greater clarity going forward. There would be an onus on organisations to report, because a report would need to be laid annually before the Parliament and a Government minister would have to present that report and be held accountable for it. The report would allow politicians across the political spectrum to question the Government on how it is dealing with the proposals and the procedures that are set out in the bill and also the wider issues around drug and alcohol addiction and rehabilitation.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Right to Addiction Recovery (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Douglas Ross

Yes. As other witnesses have alluded to, it would shine a light on the issue and ensure that some of the most vulnerable and marginalised people in our society get their say within the Parliament. Good, sound, evidence-based policies need data, and there is currently a deficiency in such data. I do not think that that has been questioned by anyone you have heard from in your evidence sessions or in submissions, nor in the evidence that the finance committee took. There is a gap in the data. By improving that, we can surely improve scrutiny of the Government, health boards, integration joint boards and others, and also help our policy making in the future.