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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 1 April 2026
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Widening Access to Higher Education

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Douglas Ross

We heard last week from the commissioner for fair access, from other witnesses and from some of the written submissions about the unique number identifier and how important that could be going forward. Do you support that? Do you have any concerns about it? Is there a reason why it was not introduced previously? We heard some concerns about the costs associated with it. Would you like to respond, Ms Russell-Hensens?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Widening Access to Higher Education

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Douglas Ross

Okay.

You mentioned resources. What estimate have you made of the cost of introducing the unique learner number?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Widening Access to Higher Education

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Douglas Ross

That does not give me any reassurance. You might have thought, having heard last week’s evidence, that one of the questions that you would get asked was how much this would cost. It worries me if the Government has not done that work. I accept your point that cost will not be a barrier, but you cannot say that 100 per cent if you do not know what the cost will be.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Widening Access to Higher Education

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Douglas Ross

But there had been discussions up until that point. We heard from the Funding Council earlier this morning that it had been in dialogue with you in the lead-up to that point.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Widening Access to Higher Education

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Douglas Ross

I have looked at the wording that you have used on the issue, as well as that used by the cabinet secretary when she made the announcement, and I see that the money is for “universities such as ... Dundee”. However, looking at the narrative from the Government, do you accept that it could have been construed by some people that this was £15 million for the University of Dundee and that that might not be the case now?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Widening Access to Higher Education

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Douglas Ross

However, there has been zero costing.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Widening Access to Higher Education

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Douglas Ross

Would implementing the unique learner number require legislation? That is another question that we have put to our witnesses. Some believe that it might, some are not sure and some think that it would.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Widening Access to Higher Education

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Douglas Ross

So it could come before your March meeting.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Widening Access to Higher Education

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Douglas Ross

I thought that you meant that it could be after. When is the meeting in March?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Widening Access to Higher Education

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Douglas Ross

I am not sure that you really answered Miles Briggs’s first question, so I will ask it in a slightly different way. There is nothing to prevent any other university in Scotland from applying for some, or all, of the £15 million. Obviously, that would be up to the Scottish Funding Council, but we could see university courts putting in bids. Five of them could put in bids for £3 million each—is that correct? Despite what was said in the chamber about the funding sustaining the University of Dundee, could the money actually go to numerous universities, meaning that the quantum per university would be reduced?