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Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 12 March 2025
Douglas Ross
I am just asking you, quite simply—
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 12 March 2025
Douglas Ross
My question was about the timing of the instrument that is in front of the committee today. Given that I think that you are accepting that the bill will have to be heavily amended—whether you believe that that is because the bill is not good enough or because, in a Parliament of minorities, you will have to accept that—and given that there will be changes to the bill before it is passed at stage 3, if it is successful, why is the order coming forward now? I know that there is precedent for taking things forward after stage 1, but has that been the case where there has been so much criticism of a bill at stage 1?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 12 March 2025
Douglas Ross
We are being asked to start the process now to have things in place for day 1 if the Education (Scotland) Bill is passed. If the bill does not pass—given that legitimate concerns have been raised at stage 1 and we do not know what amendments will or will not be accepted at stage 2, or what the ultimate outcome will be at stage 3—I am querying what would happen if appointments have been made to a body that does not exist.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 12 March 2025
Douglas Ross
You cannot provide that assurance. You simply cannot do that and neither can the cabinet secretary or the Government, because we have been tasked by the Parliament with scrutinising the bill and making amendments that will not be considered or voted on until April. I therefore find it very difficult to see why and how we can support the instrument today, given the acceptance that I think we have had from the cabinet secretary and from you as officials that things could change significantly at stages 2 and 3.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 12 March 2025
Douglas Ross
In fairness, I did allude to that earlier. My point—
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 12 March 2025
Douglas Ross
They would usually come from a wide range of organisations and backgrounds. Cabinet secretary, do you want to come back in?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 12 March 2025
Douglas Ross
It is also a real inherent risk that the Government will be aware of. I have already asked a couple of times what the Government’s contingency plan is if the draft order is not passed today because of members’ concerns—not their views on the bill itself or on qualifications Scotland, but their concerns about not being able to influence the bill before stage 2.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 12 March 2025
Douglas Ross
Mr Brown.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 12 March 2025
Douglas Ross
Mr Brown.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 12 March 2025
Douglas Ross
Can we switch off Mr Brown’s microphone?
Mr Brown, I was just going to clarify that, at no point—